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Old 06-16-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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I am not suggesting that you do. As you, perhaps, have gleaned from your participation on this forum, everybody is an expert. And every C-D expert knows one thing: Real experts are crooks who don't know squat.

Psychologist don't know squat.
Teachers don't know squat.
Biologists don't know squat.
White House legal advisors don't know squat.

And this is just another case of it. For you, it is sufficient to have half a brain to understand what the founding fathers intended. No problem. However, the White House legal team clearly can't have a clue - perhaps because they have more than half a brain?
Or perhaps they figure they won't be called on violations of the law of the land and Constitution because Obama is doing it. After all, any disagreement will immediately be termed race based and those that disagree will be placed on Obamas enemy list, to be punished by this idiot.

 
Old 06-16-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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I am SOOOO not surprised.

Imagine what you could do if you had more than half a brain. Alas, as it stands, you are stuck at knowing what the founding fathers wanted. It's something, at least.
At least that is apparently more than Obama knows. All he can see is what he wants and attempts to gain adulation from his sheep.
 
Old 06-16-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Without a doubt. It's a fairly brilliant move. The only people really p-d off by this are mostly GOP voters. Thus, he likely gains more votes through this move than he loses.
And outside of this being your opinion, you know this how? Have you personally talked to all the people to know that they like this move, or don't like this move?

As for the gain or loss of votes, unfortunately for your side we will see in November how the people really feel. And you will see how much your opinion tgruly counts.
 
Old 06-16-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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He's not passing the dream act!!! He's passing a law put forward by a Republican!!! Why do you punctuate your posts like a ten year old???
He is not passing a law. He is making a declaration of his feelings by executive order. After all, a law has to pass congressional scrutiny. What he did is a direct violation of process and the law.
 
Old 06-16-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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People say its a smart move to try for votes but it seems like its a stupid move that will cost him votes. I don't think for a minute Obama came up with this on his own, thinking just isn't the guys strong suit. So is he deliberately helping to ruin his re election chances? Is his usefulness at an end and is he being pushed aside for the next guy?
It seems like a stupid move. You have to wonder what has motivated this because he already had the votes of the illegals locked up, illegals overwhemingly supported Obama before this move.

With the very few jobs being created, you wonder how well even the hispanic citizens that are unemployed will be as enthused about this because jobless rates are actually quite high with hispanic Americans.

They may be cheering because their ethnic group is winning big -- but without jobs for citizens and legal immigrants, it may be a smaller win than they think.
 
Old 06-16-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Without a doubt. It's a fairly brilliant move. The only people really p-d off by this are mostly GOP voters. Thus, he likely gains more votes through this move than he loses.
Do you really really believe that black Americans are extremely thrilled over this? Black unemployment rates are the highest of all groups, and black youth unemployment rates are absurdly high. They are the group that is suffering the most, they are told they are lazy welfare queens but they are also being told that there will be no jobs --- none of that picking themselves up by the bootstraps even if they want to.

We all know it's going to be many more than 800,000 illegals picking up their new work visas. And just how many new jobs have been created? What could happen is unemployed Americans -- black and white may just lose their enthusiasm to vote for Obama come November. Of course the illegals will be there in high numbers to vote for him -- but will they be enough?
 
Old 06-16-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Maybe I am dense.....but isn't this similar to a president unilaterally stating....
"All child molesters are no longer going to be arrested".

It is the same thing to me....we have 800,000 illegal aliens...LAW BREAKERS!!!!

And the president now is picking and choosing which criminals to apply laws to...

He has effectively now completely cut law enforcement, and border patrol at the knees. Let's just fire those folks....we don't want them to work any more....

Sick of this president who panders to illegals....shucks....gonna let them vote too?

Yep..
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This will only hurt our country further! Clinton did similar things and look how they rushed to come to this country. This is what they wish and hope for Amnesty......

Funny how Mexicos illegal entry laws are severe and you go to prison or if they feel like it deport you. Yet they print pamphlets on how to maneuver around in this country breaking our laws to get free Gov assistance
 
Old 06-16-2012, 10:21 AM
 
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This will only hurt our country further! Clinton did similar things and look how they rushed to come to this country. This is what they wish and hope for Amnesty......

Funny how Mexicos illegal entry laws are severe and you go to prison or if they feel like it deport you. Yet they print pamphlets on how to maneuver around in this country breaking our laws to get free Gov assistance
Clinton? Was that Ronald Clinton?
 
Old 06-16-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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I am not suggesting that you do. As you, perhaps, have gleaned from your participation on this forum, everybody is an expert. And every C-D expert knows one thing: Real experts are crooks who don't know squat.

Psychologist don't know squat.
Teachers don't know squat.
Biologists don't know squat.
White House legal advisors don't know squat.

And this is just another case of it. For you, it is sufficient to have half a brain to understand what the founding fathers intended. No problem. However, the White House legal team clearly can't have a clue - perhaps because they have more than half a brain?
So granting an amnesty along with work permits for 800,000 illegal aliens when millions of Americans are out of work (doesn't even include the 300,000 he did the same thing for a few months ago) is what our founding fathers would have wanted?

Obama doesn't even have half a brain then since this will directly affect the American worker from competiton for over a million foreign workers that don't even have a right to be here.
 
Old 06-16-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Without a doubt. It's a fairly brilliant move. The only people really p-d off by this are mostly GOP voters. Thus, he likely gains more votes through this move than he loses.
Yeah, what a brilliant move! Throwing the American worker under the bus for votes from an ethnocentric group. It isn't only Republican Americans that are out of work you know.
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