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Old 06-24-2012, 04:06 AM
 
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Who do you vote for?
Romney Outlines Approach to Immigration in Speech to Latino Officials - NYTimes.com


Mr. Romney’s campaign released an outline of his plan, which would include giving green cards to immigrants who earn advanced degrees at American universities; providing a path to legal status for illegal immigrants who serve in the military; and cutting red tape.“As president, I will stand for a path to legal status for anyone who is willing to stand up and defend this great nation through military service,” Mr. Romney said.

The nearly twenty-minute speech was met with tepid applause and moments of pointed silence.


So sad to see our own citizens betrayed by our elected officials.
My understanding is that illegal immigrants can't serve in the military, and I don't have a problem with giving a legal immigrant who has served in the military a fast track to citizenship, especially if they've been in a war zone.

As for giving green cards to immigrants who earn advanced degrees at American universities, I draw the line there. Just because they've come here to get an education, shouldn't mean they get any special priveleges. The understanding was that when they were through with their schooling, they'd return to their countries of origin, and that's exactly what they should do. If they want to live here, they should follow normal legal steps to get here, like any other immigrant.
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Old 06-24-2012, 06:40 AM
 
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My understanding is that illegal immigrants can't serve in the military, and I don't have a problem with giving a legal immigrant who has served in the military a fast track to citizenship, especially if they've been in a war zone.

As for giving green cards to immigrants who earn advanced degrees at American universities, I draw the line there. Just because they've come here to get an education, shouldn't mean they get any special priveleges. The understanding was that when they were through with their schooling, they'd return to their countries of origin, and that's exactly what they should do. If they want to live here, they should follow normal legal steps to get here, like any other immigrant.
I agree with most of what you said. Your understanding is correct. Illegal aliens cannot lawfully serve in our military. IMO, even legal immigrants shouldn't be able to, only citizens.

The problem with that poll is the way it was worded. Such as "do you think these kids (Dreamies) are lawbreakers since they were brought here by their parents"? Right, there it was meant to take the focus off of them and put it on their parents. Granted, their parents did bring them here but that question was asked in that manner where anyone would have to say "no these kids are not lawbreakers therefore they should be given amnesty".

Another misleading question was about those who have served in our military when they can't do that. Anytime someone serves in our military however it tugs on our heartstrings and that was another misleading and inaccurate question to ask.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: California
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I don't know, but it seems 2/3 of them had functioning brains.
You make me laugh with your febile attempts to undermine the intelligence of people who don't agree with you. Oh and Bob, since this is the illegal immigration forum let me ask you this, why don't we send all the illegals to your house, and you feed them and clothe them? Why not Bob, your over there in sunny Fla, huh Bob? Come on there Bob, pull out that wallet, open that front door Bob. Try keeping your hands out of the wallets of the rest of America who are trying to feed their own family Bob.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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It's hard not to support President Obama in light of all the GOP vendettas against the common American. They ARE the 1%.
I'm a "common" American who WON'T vote for Obama in 2012.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:31 PM
 
Location: California
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Anti-illegals still opposed legalization when unemployment was 4 percent when Bush took office. You will come up with another argument even if unemployment was 0 percent.
Anti-illegal ?? Brilliant.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Besides one-fourth of doctors in the United States, and one-third of nurses, being foreign-born...

Not that "foreigners" getting more jobs here (as someone says above) is the same phraseology as illegal aliens getting jobs here...
Legal or ILLEGAL aliens? I think MOST if the doctors, nurses and so on you talk about are here legally.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Don't insult me by putting words in my mouth.
You see me posting on this illegal form very seldom.
I voted for Obama.
I will not vote for him this time around.
He has been totally self serving.
Neither candidate puts the average American, the great middle class, before their own greed for power.

But you do have a point. If unemployment were low I probably would have a problem if these people choose not to integrate into society, do not learn English, and do not value our culture.

The bulk of these people seem, to me, to be scheming opportunists.
Even those in their homeland indicate that this might be the case:
Mexicans have a long history of greeting returnees with skepticism — for abandoning Mexico, or because they resent the United States, or view those who moved there as materialistic, culturally out of touch and arrogant. The prejudice often extends to their children.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/wo...ail1=y&emc=tnt
Thank you so much for being so bluntley honest. I too can tell you people i know who voted for him in 08 will not this time around.

As you, these fine folks, believe he is too self serving, and things must go his way, or it is the hwy, and they don't like this.

Until someone is our sitting President, i can't say with certainty what kind of President he might be.

What i can say is what kind of President Obama is not. And he is not one who brings joy to many people, just those who serve is purpose.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:42 PM
 
Location: California
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Legal or ILLEGAL aliens? I think MOST if the doctors, nurses and so on you talk about are here legally.
I agree with you on that statement. It would be the end of Hospital's name and reputation for starters should they hire people not here legally. One patient death, oh my the lawyers would have a field day. I could hear them now " We don't have to chase ambulances anymore"
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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You make me laugh with your febile attempts to undermine the intelligence of people who don't agree with you. Oh and Bob, since this is the illegal immigration forum let me ask you this, why don't we send all the illegals to your house, and you feed them and clothe them? Why not Bob, your over there in sunny Fla, huh Bob? Come on there Bob, pull out that wallet, open that front door Bob. Try keeping your hands out of the wallets of the rest of America who are trying to feed their own family Bob.
Stated well but do not forget to tell Bob he can pay for all of their medical bills
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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What the OP failed to mention in the quote was that the margin is 3 to 1 because 86% of democrats favored the amnesty.
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