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Old 06-25-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Their state and local LE can now under lawful contact inquire about a person's status in this country if...
Which makes AZ different from the other 49 states... how?

But just like the other 49 states they can't do anything with their fugitive aside from calling ICE.
Then they get to wait for someone at ICE to decide whether to let the cop sit there on the side
of the hwy with their big fugitive capture for 20 minutes or 4 hours until they say "let 'em go".
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When the illegals flock to the safe haven states as more adopt AZ like legislation, the swing voters will see the influx and quickly turn anti-immigrant and vote out Congressional and Senate politicians who even think about being pro-illegal immigrant. It takes time for this to happen, like watching the foreclosure crisis occur, it takes patience. You watch.
I'm in Texas..front line here. When will it reach Maine ? By then it will be too late for Texas although I fear it already is.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I'm in Texas..front line here. When will it reach Maine ? By then it will be too late for Texas although I fear it already is.
Alabama's law is pretty good to go according to SCOTUS. It's driving out illegals to other states. Now if other states, follow, they will assemble in a handful of states and the people living there will either leave or vote our their politicians.

It's all about making their lives more difficult than it was back home.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I'm in Texas..front line here. When will it reach Maine ? By then it will be too late for Texas although I fear it already is.
Your Gov. Perry seems to think Texas needs a fair solution to illegal immigration rather than deporting all of them back over the border.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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How is it a victory for Arizona when the Court just struck down most of their law?
I see lot's and lot's of loitering and tail light out stops in the near future. Comprende?
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Your Gov. Perry seems to think Texas needs a fair solution to illegal immigration rather than deporting all of them back over the border.
Perry only stays now because Texas in a unique prosperous economic situation. He would've gotten trounced by Medina otherwise, even with that Glenn Bunk phonecall she made.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Which makes AZ different from the other 49 states... how?

But just like the other 49 states they can't do anything with their fugitive aside from calling ICE.
Then they get to wait for someone at ICE to decide whether to let the cop sit there on the side
of the hwy with their big fugitive capture for 20 minutes or 4 hours until they say "let 'em go".
We have Cities in CA with an ICE agent on the ready at the station. That's how it will probably go down. I'm way ok with that.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Your Gov. Perry seems to think Texas needs a fair solution to illegal immigration rather than deporting all of them back over the border.
Well the open borders we have now isn't any solution.

The cost of illegals on the state is high. How high ? Well with Fed laws prohibiting asking about citizenship it's hard to calculate. The true fact is that we don't know how much illegals are costing taxpayers, both state and Fed levels.

It could be costing Texas up to $9 billion per year but that's estimates based on supplemental data that correlates to illegals. We don't collect data on illegals.

PolitiFact Texas | Kathie Glass says more than 25 percent of state budget funds services to non-citizens
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Well the open borders we have now isn't any solution.

The cost of illegals on the state is high. How high ? Well with Fed laws prohibiting asking about citizenship it's hard to calculate. The true fact is that we don't know how much illegals are costing taxpayers, both state and Fed levels.

It could be costing Texas up to $9 billion per year but that's estimates based on supplemental data that correlates to illegals. We don't collect data on illegals.

PolitiFact Texas | Kathie Glass says more than 25 percent of state budget funds services to non-citizens
Whew! sound's like you guys need to get crackin and fix the state audit system. Maybe the state of Texas needs to build a fence along their border with Mexico. How many thousands of miles of border do you have with mexico anyway? What's the estimated cost of an effective border fence? 20 million a mile?
Certainly you wouldn't expect the taxpayers of the other 49 states to finance your fence?
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:15 PM
 
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just the opposite, this is a victory for AZ and other states will follow...

Nita

actually it isn't. the "meat" of the law has been rendered useless.

the last part of the law, will probably be dealt in State Court (not the federal level) since one can claim that there are no strict rules as to how cops can pull over someone (anyone) and ask them about their immigration status. It can be abused.
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