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Old 06-26-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Originally Posted by mco65 View Post
I don't think its even POSSIBLE to deport the MILLIONS of Illegals reported to be in the US.
So yes.. i think amnesty is easier..

Regardless of the approach, fix the damn leak first and secure the Southern BORDER!!!!
Start enforcing the law and punishing companies that hire illegals in the first place. If there weren't jobs, the border would not need to be as secure.

If drugs were legal, the border wouldn't need to be secure.

Fix these two issues and you fix the Illegal Immigration problem.

 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:41 PM
 
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There is no reason to give amnesty when there is no border security.
There certainly is border security in Arizona, I drove thru a Border Patrol checkpoint just last weekend. They catch thousands and thousands of people attempting to sneak into the country, how is that done with no border security?

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Now the DHS says hey Arizona your on your own.
We've covered this, but you keep repeating this lie as if it will become true if said enough times. DHS will continue enforcing immigration laws in the state of Arizona, but they do not have the resources to respond to every local police interaction with someone who seems like they could be an illegal immigrant. It just isn't possible.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Start enforcing the law and punishing companies that hire illegals in the first place. If there weren't jobs, the border would not need to be as secure.
Nice post. More severe sanctions on companies that knowingly hire illegals is the biggest bang for your buck in the war against illegal immigration.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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Start enforcing the law and punishing companies that hire illegals in the first place. If there weren't jobs, the border would not need to be as secure.

If drugs were legal, the border wouldn't need to be secure.

Fix these two issues and you fix the Illegal Immigration problem.
It isn't just the jobs that draw them here. Benefits and birthright citizenship do also. Besides, it isn't just people looking for the above that are getting through our border criminals and would be terrorists are also. We need to make our borders as secure as they can be to prevent all illegal entry.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Nice post. More severe sanctions on companies that knowingly hire illegals is the biggest bang for your buck in the war against illegal immigration.
Seriously! Why is this SO hard for people to figure out??? This ticks me off beyond belief. As an Employer myself, I would never knowingly hire an illegal. They could come to me with fake ID and SS papers and I wouldn't know, (even though the US Government has made it easier to verify these,) but that wouldn't be my fault.

But if I hire a bunch of illegals at a rate below minimum wage (as is frequently done) ... then this is totally my fault and I should be punished for it. Not let off with a slap on the wrists after saying "Oh... I didn't know they were illegal!" So that I can go back and do it again. That's assuming I even get caught in the first place.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 05:55 PM
 
Location: US
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Ha! Best comment yet! I wonder what he will he do if Obamacare is gutted.

QUOTE=Cavaturaccioli;24912917]What we just witnessed is a Presidential hissy fit.[/quote]
 
Old 06-26-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Pay back's a beotch...ain't it?
 
Old 06-26-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I think Obama is making a mistake. He is pandering to a group who will NOT be voting come November.

Are you sure?
 
Old 06-26-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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You know, if I was Mexican, I'd be coming to America, too.
 
Old 06-26-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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The Obama administration was quick to react after the Supreme Court announced its ruling that Arizona police could legally ask persons stopped for other matters, about their immigration status.

Within hours of the ruling, the Dept of Homeland Security announced it was revoking its previous agreements to cooperate with Arizona law enforcement personnel in immigration-related arrests and other matters. And they made it clear that, if Arizona police found a person who was an illegal alien and called Federal authorities as they now must, the Federal authorities would not respond to the call.
Homeland Security revokes 287(g) immigration check agreements in Arizona | Arizona Capitol Times

At the same time as the announcement that Feds would not respond to calls about illegal aliens in Arizona, the Obama administration also announced a new "hot line" to take calls about Arizona law enforcement personnel dealing with illegal aliens. The purpose of the new "hot line" was not to respond to the presence of the illegal alien, but to investigate the behavior of the Arizona police officer, they said.
Justice Dept. sets up hotline for civil rights concerns on immigration verification in Arizona - The Washington Post

It quickly became clear that the Obama administration, in addition to its general policy of not enforcing immigration laws that had been passed by Congress and signed into law, was singling out Arizona in response to the state's pleas for aid in coping with the flood of illegal aliens that had deluged the state for years, and its attempts to enforce the laws that the Federal government had not enforced.

Yesterday's action by the Obama administration made it very clear what states could expect if they dared to challenge the government's policy of not enforcing Federal laws.

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in his Dissenting Opinion yesterday:


Little Hitler has ruled. Now, is there ANYONE who has an ounce of common sense left, that wants this tyrant at the helm of the nation for four more years? (liberals, of course, given their inability to comprehend common sense, are excluded, and will vote for Obama as a matter of course).
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