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Old 07-06-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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The reason they come here is for the jobs. Laws were passed making it illegal to hire them, but they were rarely enforced. Obama finally found a way to keep them out, or reduce the flow. Put the economy into the worst depression since the 1930's and there are no jobs for them to take.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Yes they will and why not? Arizona can ask but do little more than that. They can turn it over to immigration. Obama has pretty much granted an amnesty so they have no real fears as the fed is less than willing to pursue any follow up.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The reason they come here is for the jobs. Laws were passed making it illegal to hire them, but they were rarely enforced. Obama finally found a way to keep them out, or reduce the flow. Put the economy into the worst depression since the 1930's and there are no jobs for them to take.
Kinda like throwing the baby out with the bath water, huh ? I agree with you 100%. Obama is doing his
best to destroy all of the State's rights to enforce the law. Put the economy in a tail spin and follow his
"European Model". If they don't change direction in Nov. and vote Obama out the country is in big trouble.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: outer space
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Tucson sheriff (against sb1070) argues that this will tie up resources and man power:

When someone is detained (lawful stop included) and needs to be checked for immigration status, the officer (legally must) will wait with the detainee until status is verified. Crimes that previously warranted a ticket, for example, would end with the person released in some amount of time. Now, the time frame for release is extended and manpower per detention is at least doubled. This, it seems obvious, has economic consequences.

Of course, during a traffic stop, the driver should possess a valid driver's license. I guess there are cases (jay walking?) where such identification is not typically available and with a large mexican-american/latino/hispanic population at the border (many who are legally in the U.S.) this could cause the previously mentioned.

Thoughts?
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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The Supreme Court ruled today that state or local cops can legally ask someone for proof that he's in the country legally if they suspect he's an illegal alien, once they stop him for some other reason (traffic stop, etc.).

With that now in place, will we keep seeing the continued flood of illegal aliens crossing the border into the United States?

IMO every little bit we put into place to make it more uncomfortable for illegal aliens to live here, will help reduce the problem.
Identity theft will keep climbing. Illegals break other laws besides entering the country illegally.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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The Supreme Court ruled today that state or local cops can legally ask someone for proof that he's in the country legally if they suspect he's an illegal alien, once they stop him for some other reason (traffic stop, etc.).

With that now in place, will we keep seeing the continued flood of illegal aliens crossing the border into the United States?

IMO every little bit we put into place to make it more uncomfortable for illegal aliens to live here, will help reduce the problem.
I'm sure our current administration is unhappy with this ruling. The more "uncomfortable" it becomes for illegals, more than likely more rights will be passed on to them by the government seeing as how they are a protected class. When illegals start making a stink about being "profiled", our government will continue to ensure that their human rights, civil rights, right to counsel, right to fair trial, the right to sue, the right to free medical care, the right to remain in the US illegally is something that illegals are entitled to as "undocumentd Americans", are secure. And to show it's support, will provide additional "benefits" to comfort these victims of our society.
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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Tucson sheriff (against sb1070) argues that this will tie up resources and man power:

When someone is detained (lawful stop included) and needs to be checked for immigration status, the officer (legally must) will wait with the detainee until status is verified. Crimes that previously warranted a ticket, for example, would end with the person released in some amount of time. Now, the time frame for release is extended and manpower per detention is at least doubled. This, it seems obvious, has economic consequences.

Of course, during a traffic stop, the driver should possess a valid driver's license. I guess there are cases (jay walking?) where such identification is not typically available and with a large mexican-american/latino/hispanic population at the border (many who are legally in the U.S.) this could cause the previously mentioned.

Thoughts?
It costs to enforce any of our laws so your point is?
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