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View Poll Results: Should American law enforcement be able to racially profile?
Yes 57 76.00%
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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Originally Posted by Nea1 View Post
"Racial privilege sure must be comfy"

I have yet to discover that.

Not sure that I've discovered that either...I've been pulled over and ticketed along with the best of them and never considered it to be "racial profiling".

Now if there was ever a report of a bank robbery or something, done by a mom in a mini van, well then, I guess I'd be pulled over and questioned. I'm sorry that I don't fit the description of most felons so I've had "racial privilege".

 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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If there was a report for a mexican who stole a certain vehicle, and you fit the bill, then I see no problem in pulling you over...that is how crimes are solved.
That's not racial profiling. You already have a description of the suspect and vehicle. You are carefully seeking the individual who most closely "fits" the description. Race is incidental.

Racial profiling exists when race is used a priori as a basis for determining the likelihood of individual criminality.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Originally Posted by Nea1 View Post
"Racial privilege sure must be comfy"

I have yet to discover that.
...As a fish has yet to discover he's wet
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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That's not racial profiling. You already have a description of the suspect and vehicle. You are carefully seeking the individual who most closely "fits" the description. Race is incidental.

Racial profiling exists when race is used a priori as a basis for determining the likelihood of individual criminality.
But isn't that basically the same as in your situation? You fit the description of a local drug runner?

and p.s. I am not the one who said that the above was racial profiling..I was commenting on what the other poster had mentioned about being "mexican and assumed he had stolen a vehicle"
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:28 AM
 
Location: California
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Racial Profiling comes to us naturally. But its not like only the colored races are bad. There is a lot of that over here in the Bay Area, an officer stops a Mexican in an Escalade and immediately assumes its stolen because obviously the officer is jealous he can't make that on his wages.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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Originally Posted by ProLogic View Post
Racial Profiling comes to us naturally. But its not like only the colored races are bad. There is a lot of that over here in the Bay Area, an officer stops a Mexican in an Escalade and immediately assumes its stolen because obviously the officer is jealous he can't make that on his wages.

Really, that's quite an "assumption" too
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Not sure that I've discovered that either...I've been pulled over and ticketed along with the best of them and never considered it to be "racial profiling".

Now if there was ever a report of a bank robbery or something, done by a mom in a mini van, well then, I guess I'd be pulled over and questioned. I'm sorry that I don't fit the description of most felons so I've had "racial privilege".
But you were ticketed for something.

Your example again is not an example of racial profiling. Consider your likelihood of being pulled over and questioned absent the circumstance of a bank robbery in your area.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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Ok, but aren't most people who are pulled over and then cry "racial profiling" actually pulled over for a specific reason other than just being "add race here"? That's the way I'm hearing it. The police cannot pull over a hispanic for a traffic violation then ask them their legal status because it is racial profiling. Am I misunderstanding?
To be pulled over specifically for race, is wrong, but to be pulled over for a valid reason then asked is absolutely ok.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Really, that's quite an "assumption" too
Yep and a BS assumption it was.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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But isn't that basically the same as in your situation? You fit the description of a local drug runner?
No. They weren't looking for anyone in particular. But it was assumed that, as a young black teenager living in an area known for drug activity, my presence (not my activity) was grounds enough for probable cause.
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