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View Poll Results: Should American law enforcement be able to racially profile?
Yes 57 76.00%
No 18 24.00%
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Indeed there are.

But unfortunately, due to that experience, inasmuch as I feel that I am being unjustafiably pursued by the authorities, I will be inclined to profile them, in turn, as cops of questionable virtue.
So you are profiling all cops as bad? There is that profiling again. Lord, how many times did that happen to you?

 
Old 10-09-2007, 01:45 PM
 
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In the wake of the shooting death of a police officer during a routine traffic stop in Houston last year at the hands of an illegal immigrant placed under arrest, a city-wide mandate has gone into effect that citizenship status be ascertained of all persons arrested and processed for any offense.

Although at first glance one would probably deem it reasonable to only question Hispanics about their legal status, given that the vast majority of the 400,000 or so undocumented immigrants residing in the Houston metro area are from Mexico, it is not hard to realize that in order to ensure the prevention of racial profiling (and hence, discrimination) during the legal process, one must first ensure the ubiquitous applicability of the law.
Do you know what is currently happening with that illegal? I heard that someone is trying to stop the execution because his rights were violated by not being told he could speak to the mexican consolate.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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Do you know what is currently happening with that illegal? I heard that someone is trying to stop the execution because his rights were violated by not being told he could speak to the mexican consolate.

HIS rights, ugh...how about the rights of his children to grow up with a daddy or his wife to grow old with her husband...their rights were stripped away from them by this illegal, who shouldn't have been here...but thanks to unsecured borders, this sweet family will have to face life without their daddy and husband
 
Old 10-09-2007, 02:01 PM
 
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HIS rights, ugh...how about the rights of his children to grow up with a daddy or his wife to grow old with her husband...their rights were stripped away from them by this illegal, who shouldn't have been here...but thanks to unsecured borders, this sweet family will have to face life without their daddy and husband
People in this country illegally should have NO rights! They should only have rights in their own country. If they are here illegally they are subject to our courts period.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 05:10 PM
 
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Illegals in this country are the worse thing that could happen and are detrimental to this country.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 07:10 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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I voted no.
There are plenty of ways to enforce, catch and deport illegals without having to do this. We have a revolving door with the illegals and need to stop them at the border (its not like they are parachuting in!) but after seeing the border patrol agents go to jail, we all know that they are being forced to let them in.

Look at all the illegals that have broken laws repeatedly, their illegal status could have been enforced on the first offense but it is not. Racial profiling is just another way for pro-illegal supporters to bring up the racist card, just like this thread...

The question, i believe, did not just pertain to the illegal situation. If your home was broken into, and a witness saw a short, bald asian man running from the scene, don't you think the cops should concentrate their search on short asian men?? That would be profiling.
 
Old 10-10-2007, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Bayou City Megaplex
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So you are profiling all cops as bad? There is that profiling again. Lord, how many times did that happen to you?
Of course not. But now I know what some officers are capable of. And if there is cause for me to be wary of one's motivations, then I will be.

I cannot control how an officer might respond to my presence in a given situation. I can only make sure that I am not bringing unnecessary attention to myself. I will certainly not afford him any valid reason to focus his attention on me.
 
Old 10-10-2007, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Bayou City Megaplex
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Do you know what is currently happening with that illegal? I heard that someone is trying to stop the execution because his rights were violated by not being told he could speak to the mexican consolate.
You're right. They're staying his execution because of that.
 
Old 10-10-2007, 01:14 AM
 
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Back when I was in the air force I was stationed in Mississippi for a couple of years. Anyway, my buddies and I all decided to go down to Marti Graus. The four of us drove to New Orleans, and then not knowing our way around we got off in the wrong area of town. We decided as long as we were off the freeway we would get gas. After driving around a while we found a place and fueled up. While we were filling up a cop saw us and hit his lights and pulled over. He stopped us over for no other reason than we were four white guys in a dangerous black neighborhood. The cop ran a check on us, then escorted us back to the freeway. The cop explained to us that we were in an area of town that many white people drive over to when they want to purchase drugs, and that we were lucky to get out of the area alive. He was not kidding. It was in the middle of the night and we were in an extremely violent area of New Orleans.

Were we racially profiled? Of course. But racial profiling is a legitimate law enforcement tool.
 
Old 10-10-2007, 02:28 AM
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Amazing- the OP said 10 words, and didn't even share his/her opinion on the subject...

Racial profiling is a perfect tool as long as your not the one being profiled. For instance let's pull over where white male in his 20-40s since that demographic happens to commit most of the violent serial crimes. That won't happen.

It's necessary when done in the proper context. If you looking for someone who's fit a description based on eye-witness account, it would be foolish not to use as much info in order to catch a bad guy. It becomes a problem with everyone fitting that description is blanketed as a perp or a potential perp. It's fine line I agree, but should be done in proper context.
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