U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-30-2012, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Blue Ridge
20,894 posts, read 22,686,717 times
Reputation: 8636

Advertisements

The problem here is that there has been too many incidents of shooting first ask questions later. Too many illegals have been shot, and some killed, without carrying a weapon. Its a case of using deadly force in situations that don't call for it. Remember we are not at war with Mexico. Even though these people are infiltrators they need to caught in line with the laws of our nation. Maybe they need to be trained by Israelis on how to use rubber bullets and stun grenades.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-01-2012, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
9,833 posts, read 5,590,937 times
Reputation: 3399
To my friends at the US Border Patrol I will repeat a couple common sayings.
1. Better to be judged by 12 of your peers than to be carried by six of your friends.
2. Dead men don't testify.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 03:47 AM
 
12,870 posts, read 12,775,361 times
Reputation: 4446
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilVA View Post
The problem here is that there has been too many incidents of shooting first ask questions later. Too many illegals have been shot, and some killed, without carrying a weapon. Its a case of using deadly force in situations that don't call for it. Remember we are not at war with Mexico. Even though these people are infiltrators they need to caught in line with the laws of our nation. Maybe they need to be trained by Israelis on how to use rubber bullets and stun grenades.
here's a thought.

don't break our laws and don't come into our country illegally, and you won't have to worry about any of it.

for the record, you are naive if you think we aren't at war with mexico right now. working americans are fighting to keep their jobs and their lifestyles, and mexico, due to the presidential corruption and the advanced state of lawlessness, is actively undermining the ability of americans to maintain their lifestyle and their safety.

another mexican cartel decapitation story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-video.html

is it any wonder that americans don't want that coming here????? close the dam* border.

this administration is doing nothing to help, and telling americans to run and hide is DISGRACEFUL.

Last edited by floridasandy; 07-01-2012 at 04:58 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Southern California
15,088 posts, read 16,938,924 times
Reputation: 10273
Quote:
Originally Posted by floridasandy View Post
here's a thought.

don't break our laws and don't come into our country illegally, and you won't have to worry about any of it.

for the record, you are naive if you think we aren't at war with mexico right now. working americans are fighting to keep their jobs and their lifestyles, and mexico, due to the presidential corruption and the advanced state of lawlessness, is actively undermining the ability of americans to maintain their lifestyle and their safety.

another mexican decapitation story:
Mexican drug cartels decapitate rivals in disturbing video | Mail Online

is it any wonder that americans don't want that coming here????? close the dam* border.

this administration is doing nothing to help, and telling americans to run and hide is DISGRACEFUL.
What do you mean this administration?

[which administration did anything to help?]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 04:58 AM
 
12,870 posts, read 12,775,361 times
Reputation: 4446
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIKEETC View Post
What do you mean this administration?

[which administration did anything to help?]
exactly what i said-this administration.

if you are asking was bush useless also, i would say yes.

of course, this administration also shipped weapons to those crazy cartels, resulting in yet more violence, and evidently nobody is going to be held accountable in this most transparent of administrations.

it's a dam* shame for law-abiding citizens, isn't it?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Southern California
15,088 posts, read 16,938,924 times
Reputation: 10273
Quote:
Originally Posted by floridasandy View Post
exactly what i said-this administration.

if you are asking was bush useless also, i would say yes.

of course, this administration also shipped weapons to those crazy cartels, resulting in yet more violence, and evidently nobody is going to be held accountable in this most transparent of administrations.

it's a dam* shame for law-abiding citizens, isn't it?
Fair enough.

[and, yes, it is a shame ]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Blue Ridge
20,894 posts, read 22,686,717 times
Reputation: 8636
don't break our laws and don't come into our country illegally, and you won't have to worry about any of it.
Trespassing is not offense that requires deadly force
for the record, you are naive if you think we aren't at war with mexico right now. working americans are fighting to keep their jobs and their lifestyles, and mexico, due to the presidential corruption and the advanced state of lawlessness, is actively undermining the ability of americans to maintain their lifestyle and their safety.
We are not in a state of war like Turkey is to the kurds. We are in an economic war that was created by our own adminitrations bending to the will of large corporations. NAFTA would have worked if we outsourced to Mexico instead of China. Our administrations (Rs & Ds) caused this. Until we are ready to pay a dime for the nickel candy, nothing will change. Too many people want to pay a penny for the nickel candy.
is it any wonder that americans don't want that coming here????? close the dam* border.
Go ahead and build a fence and close it off. No problem. Haven't you noticed we no longer talk about the fence anymore since we found out that some of the construction contracts by large corporations were being outsourced to Mexico.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
10,584 posts, read 7,968,772 times
Reputation: 4146
Quote:
Originally Posted by MIKEETC View Post
Not everyone who works for the Border Patrol works on the border. You seriously believe this applies to agents on patrol in the field? Read the pamphlet - it tells employees to evacuate, block entry to the hiding place, lock doors, and call law enforcement. It also defines an active shooter as "an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area..."

[i'm sure that makes sense on the border in the middle of the desert]
I fully agree that having these rules apply to armed agents in the field is completely ridiculous, and not a little insulting. It makes no sense at all.

But when pressed on that very problem, the liberals replied:

(you DID read the article, didn't you?)

Quote:
DHS officials maintain that the Active Shooter course was designed for all employees—civilian and law-enforcement officers-- and no one should rush into a situation where they, or others around them, could get hurt.

“The Department of Homeland Security takes very seriously its responsibility to protect all of its employees from threats that may surface in the workplace,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Michael Friel said in a written statement to FoxNews.com

“CBP workforce training is designed to prepare all employees, including leaders, managers, supervisors, law enforcement personnel and non-law enforcement personnel, to understand their own roles and the roles of their fellow employees in responding to threats. In an active shooter scenario, employees are taught to take actions that keep them alive.”
Never assume that liberals mean to apply their new laws sensibly. That assumption will usually make you as stupid as they are.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 06:08 PM
 
30,899 posts, read 24,219,681 times
Reputation: 17784
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailordave View Post
"It's a vicious bunny, with long sharp pointy teeth!"
"Runaway runaway!"
From Robin Williams, "Stop, or I'll yell stop again".
stop or my mom will shoot!!


Monty Python - Self-Defense Against Fruit - YouTube
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-01-2012, 07:25 PM
 
20,611 posts, read 12,286,582 times
Reputation: 5895
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilVA View Post
The problem here is that there has been too many incidents of shooting first ask questions later. Too many illegals have been shot, and some killed, without carrying a weapon. Its a case of using deadly force in situations that don't call for it. Remember we are not at war with Mexico. Even though these people are infiltrators they need to caught in line with the laws of our nation. Maybe they need to be trained by Israelis on how to use rubber bullets and stun grenades.
I'm Ok with using force to stop illegal aliens cause they're invaders and need to be stopped by any means IF they try to run. Not all of them are just "looking for a better life" in 2012, some are members of Mexican drug gangs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top