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Old 07-02-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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So then why are we singling out the employee here and not the employer? It's hard to pay taxes when your boss never gives you a W-2 form.

Are there not US citizens also working under the table? Do they get a free pass?
I didn't single the employee out. I said both are guilty. These illegal aliens know right from wrong. They know they are supposed to be paying income taxes. If their boss doesn't offer them a W-4 (not a W-2) they know their employer is trying to cheat the system and they are also.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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I dont think dems are big supporters of illegal aliens. Americans in general are not big on supporting illegal aliens in freeloading and taking away jobs and sending money across the border.

You must not be talking to any real life dems, else you would know this.
I don't think your regular everyday citizen Democrat is but the Democrat politicians seem to be big supporters of illegal aliens. Look at Omaba promising them amnesty all the time. Look at the Dem congressmen. Especially those who are Hispanic.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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I didn't single the employee out. I said both are guilty. These illegal aliens know right from wrong. They know they are supposed to be paying income taxes. If their boss doesn't offer them a W-4 (not a W-2) they know their employer is trying to cheat the system and they are also.
The average illegal who has been in this country for a few months or years and doesn't speak English knows US tax law? Maybe or maybe not.

Again there are US citizens who work as waiters, taxi cab drivers, handymen, etc. that don't pay income taxes that are not being singled out.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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E-verify would help rectify the illegal employee/employer problem, but democrats aren't fond of that. Why is that?
I'm not against e-verify if it is done across the board and is double checked.

Little known fact is that the repubs in Texas like illegals. Who would build their McMansions if not for them? College students in 105 degree weather?.....on weekends?
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I like the term easy riders.......Peter Fonda, Jack Nicholson.....yea baby!!!
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, AUSTINtx
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I didn't single the employee out. I said both are guilty. These illegal aliens know right from wrong. They know they are supposed to be paying income taxes. If their boss doesn't offer them a W-4 (not a W-2) they know their employer is trying to cheat the system and they are also.
Okay and I don't know the answer to this one but the LEGAL responsibility falls on which party(s)?
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:49 PM
 
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Why Don't Dems ever call illegals and welfare recipients "free riders"

Maybe because they don't want to upset the people who vote for them...
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Are you saying illegals don't pay taxes? They have no choice when it comes to sales and property taxes. If their employers prefers to pay them under the table, then isn't that company ultimately responsible for complying with IRS codes?

Chances are, that company hiring the illegals drove the legitimate company in to bankruptcy long ago. Doing the right thing has no place in this twisted economy. And companies do have ways of hiring illegals "on the books".

Illegals don't own property in most cases. Sure, they rent, and indirectly pay taxes. I doubt they put in more than they take out though. Whatever is left over surely gets wired back home.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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That is always an interesting debate, whether illegals put in more than they take out. Of course studies done by either side of the issue will often come up with very different results.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:48 PM
 
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"Why Don't Dems ever call illegals and welfare recipients "free riders"

Perhaps because longer multi-syllabic words don't strike terror in our hearts and we find little use for words that lack definitional clarity or accuracy. You seen an Illegal alien can be "free riders" or hard working tax paying illegal residents. A welfare recipient can be an individual whose has worked and paid taxes and who have suddenly finds themselves on the "dole", or they can be an individual who are as lazy and shiftless as they come. Lumping all illegals and all welfare recipients into some one size fits all description is just plain ignorant. You see the problem is that Democrats and liberals are capable of complex thoughts and analysis, so having to dumb every thing down to satiate the simple minded, just isn't our cup of tea (bag).
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