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Unread 07-02-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Default Why Don't Dems ever call illegals and welfare recipients "free riders"

Over the weekend I saw several Dems try and say the tax in Obamacare is a penalty on "free riders". I thought that was an odd choice of words coming from Dems consider they affinity for illegals and Great Society programs.

Why don't Dems call illegals and those on welfare free riders?

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Pelosi, D-Calif., told NBC's "Meet the Press" the mandate requirement is a penalty for so-called free riders and contended the plan known as "Obamacare" actually includes tax breaks for most Americans.

"It's not a tax, it's a penalty for free riders," Pelosi said. "But since you're bringing up the subject, it's important to note the middle-income families will get about $4,000 in tax breaks and tax credits in order to buy their health insurance. Middle-income families make out very well in this."

Pelosi said Democrats in Congress are ready and able to debate the merits of the law when it comes to the American public should Republican leaders on the Hill make good on their vow to overturn the controversial program.

Read more: Pelosi ready to defend Obamacare - UPI.com
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Unread 07-02-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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Because it doesnt fit with their agenda. They NEED these people as voters. The more they keep the majority of them down, coming back for more and more, the better it is for them.

Everyone who thinks this Obamacare thing is going to work, just look at that many welfare and entitlement programs we have. They dont work. They are so bad, they just keep creating new ones to add to the existing ones.

Liberalism, a mental disorder
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Unread 07-02-2012, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I've posted in other threads that most of these "free riders" are illegals and Obamacare won't change that.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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Because that is their voting base

You can't insult the ones who depend on you
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Unread 07-02-2012, 06:50 PM
 
Location: East Austin
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Are you saying illegals don't pay taxes? They have no choice when it comes to sales and property taxes. If their employers prefers to pay them under the table, then isn't that company ultimately responsible for complying with IRS codes?
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Unread 07-02-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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Are you saying illegals don't pay taxes? They have no choice when it comes to sales and property taxes. If their employers prefers to pay them under the table, then isn't that company ultimately responsible for complying with IRS codes?
I believe both the employer and the illegal employee would be liable for not paying the applicable income taxes.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 07:04 PM
 
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I dont think dems are big supporters of illegal aliens. Americans in general are not big on supporting illegal aliens in freeloading and taking away jobs and sending money across the border.

You must not be talking to any real life dems, else you would know this.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: East Austin
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I believe both the employer and the illegal employee would be liable for not paying the applicable income taxes.
So then why are we singling out the employee here and not the employer? It's hard to pay taxes when your boss never gives you a W-2 form.

Are there not US citizens also working under the table? Do they get a free pass?
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Unread 07-02-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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I am a democrat and I call people who abuse the system free riders, scum bags, low life's and irresponsible......

I also think people who take their money off shore yet use our infrastructure and take advantage of every Gov't program that helps them are free riders....
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Unread 07-02-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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So then why are we singling out the employee here and not the employer? It's hard to pay taxes when your boss never gives you a W-2 form.

Are there not US citizens also working under the table? Do they get a free pass?
E-verify would help rectify the illegal employee/employer problem, but democrats aren't fond of that. Why is that?
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