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Old 07-03-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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Has anyone here seen Sin Nombre?

It is on Netflix instant streaming. It is easily one of the most moving films I have ever seen in my life. It is up there with the Holocaust film The Pianist for me.

It is easy to feel uninformed on the issues of illegal immigration today, and this film which is an adventure thriller shows what life is like in Mexico for the poor and how gangs control cities.

Regardless of one's view of illegal immigration, this movie is moving and will make you grateful to live in the US. We are so lucky to be born here because many Central Americans risk their lives for months to enter the US illegally and work the most undesirable jobs. Half of them don't survive the trip and that is shown in this film as well.

It is truly epic.
Everyone faces hardships, thats why some go to lengths to rob banks, steal from a store or burglarize a home.

Doesn't make it right.


There has been genocides in Africa. I am sure life is a lot harder there.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...Why should we discuss the Mexican election in here? It isn't an illegal immigration topic.
Au contraire, we have proactively discussed Mexican economics, society and politics many times here before. It's another irony, because the earlier PRI party caused much of the turbulence in Mexico, gutting the economy and refusing privatization of entire industries. Forced out at the national level, and many of the states in Mexico, Fox and his hand-picked successor of Calderon caught the blame on anti-immigration (at least for Mexicans) forums for the Mexicans that left their country.

Now the PRI is back in the Mexican Presidency...

Will the trends of the Mexican economy and growing middle-class, two factors that heavily influence Mexican emigration, continue, or backtrack? Our own elections will possibly influence the high deportation numbers repatriating Mexicans. I think Obama will keep the deportation pace or increase it as a "lame duck" President; Romney is a big unknown to how he may flip.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Excellent film!
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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I somehow don't think "Bon-bon" is going to make much improvements. And there is no evidence whatsoever that immigration has reversed. None -- just some campaign rhetoric. If immigration was reversing, all these illegals wouldn't be demanding their big amnesties and dream acts.
Those who are demanding are the ones who've been here for years. Also, the other member said that Mexican immigration was down (not that it completely stopped) and he made no mention of the immigration of central or south Americans. You can't blame Mexicans for central or south Americans from continuing to come in.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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Excellent film!
What did you like about it?
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Thanks...I'll have to check out those movies. Wait..are you saying Under the Same Moon is the worst
There I fixed it for you; Under the Same Moon is a cheesy made for TV film. A Better Life and Sin Nombre are far better films.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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Au contraire, we have proactively discussed Mexican economics, society and politics many times here before. It's another irony, because the earlier PRI party caused much of the turbulence in Mexico, gutting the economy and refusing privatization of entire industries. Forced out at the national level, and many of the states in Mexico, Fox and his hand-picked successor of Calderon caught the blame on anti-immigration (at least for Mexicans) forums for the Mexicans that left their country.

Now the PRI is back in the Mexican Presidency...

Will the trends of the Mexican economy and growing middle-class, two factors that heavily influence Mexican emigration, continue, or backtrack? Our own elections will possibly influence the high deportation numbers repatriating Mexicans. I think Obama will keep the deportation pace or increase it as a "lame duck" President; Romney is a big unknown to how he may flip.
Anti-immigration forums? Where would those be? I don't consider being in favor of reduced immigration till our economy turns around or even a temporary moritorium on it as being anti-immigration. No one is anti immigration from Mexico either just that other national and ethnic groups should get equal immigration numbers for diversity sake.

As for Obama and the claims that he has deported more illegal aliens than former presidents what good does that do since he has given over a million of them a back door amnesty with work permits? He has also said he will only allow "convicted" felons to be deported. Since when shouldn't all illegal aliens be deported? No thanks, I already know what Obama stands for. I'll take my chances with Romney. At least I think he would be better on most all other issues.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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Those who are demanding are the ones who've been here for years. Also, the other member said that Mexican immigration was down (not that it completely stopped) and he made no mention of the immigration of central or south Americans. You can't blame Mexicans for central or south Americans from continuing to come in.
Why shouldn't we blame them? Are they clueless that they are coming here illegally and breaking our immigration laws?
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Those who are demanding are the ones who've been here for years. Also, the other member said that Mexican immigration was down (not that it completely stopped) and he made no mention of the immigration of central or south Americans. You can't blame Mexicans for central or south Americans from continuing to come in.
Their Govt is just as much to blame as they really haven't done enough to stop the flow coming in from their own borders.

Do you think they would if all of our poor were pouring into Mexico? Dang straight they would be.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Up North
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A Better Life:



Very good...


Crossing Over:



Good, but many complex plots interweaved...


Gran Torino:



Classic Eastwood...


Under the Same Moon is a little cheesy to me, but still pretty good:






You should know better than to ask leading questions to "malamute"...

Lol...yes. Those movies look great, I can't believe I haven't seen any of them. I'll have to check them out before my vacation ends. It makes me wish there was something I could do to help people who come from such desperate situations where it's worth the trouble of coming here illegally and living as an illegal alien. I really wish there was something I could do to help.


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Considering that this is the debut film for the young director, I'd say it's a really good film, very high quality. I never heard of the movie and was expecting something else and was pleasntly surprised. I enjoyed the cinematography, and the actors were pretty spot on as well. Good film , even if you don't agree with the politics. Another good film is "El Norte" made about 25 years ago, probably just as good or better than Sin Nomber


El Norte - OFFICIAL TRAILER - YouTube

Yes, I heard this was amazing as well. I will have to watch it probably next to a box of kleenex when the tears start flowing. Thanks.
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