U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-30-2007, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,366,957 times
Reputation: 4893

Advertisements

Construction on 70 miles of new fence along the U.S. border with Mexico should be finished tomorrow.

That completes the first phase of a plan to add 370 miles of new barriers by the end of next year. Most is in Arizona.

U.S. Customs and Border Enforcement spokesman Brad Benson says his agency met its goal of having the new fencing built by the end of September.

Fences have gone up near the Arizona border towns of Douglas, Naco, Sasabe, San Luis and Yuma, and along the Barry M. Goldwater Air Force Range. Besides the 58 miles built here, 3 miles went up in New Mexico and 9.2 miles in California.

Arizona Senator Jon Kyl says the new fence should help convince skeptics that the government is serious about securing the border.

But immigration reform activist Roberto Reveles says the fencing won't stop people seeking work from trying to get into the country. He says a guest worker program is what's really needed.


70 Miles of New Border Fencing Almost Complete
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-30-2007, 10:22 AM
 
1,352 posts, read 4,158,471 times
Reputation: 570
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
Construction on 70 miles of new fence along the U.S. border with Mexico should be finished tomorrow.

That completes the first phase of a plan to add 370 miles of new barriers by the end of next year. Most is in Arizona.

U.S. Customs and Border Enforcement spokesman Brad Benson says his agency met its goal of having the new fencing built by the end of September.

Fences have gone up near the Arizona border towns of Douglas, Naco, Sasabe, San Luis and Yuma, and along the Barry M. Goldwater Air Force Range. Besides the 58 miles built here, 3 miles went up in New Mexico and 9.2 miles in California.

Arizona Senator Jon Kyl says the new fence should help convince skeptics that the government is serious about securing the border.

But immigration reform activist Roberto Reveles says the fencing won't stop people seeking work from trying to get into the country. He says a guest worker program is what's really needed.


70 Miles of New Border Fencing Almost Complete
While a fence may be a small deterent, the real issue is that the govt. must penalize employers for hiring illegals. Once this is done, then the illegals will STOP trying to flew their country, because there will be NO work for them. There is a guest worker program in place - we DO NOT need any more. Just enforce the LAWS-PERIOD it's simple. If the govt hadn't sold us (Americans) for big business, then the problem with undocumented immigrants wouldn't be an issue. Geez, at what point can we get someone in office that has morals/values, sincere, and can't be PURCHASED?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 10:34 AM
 
11,128 posts, read 12,375,545 times
Reputation: 3668
YAY 70 miles complete! Only 1,880 more miles to go at exactly how much per mile? Fence won't even keep my dog in the yard, I am sure however it will keep sentient intelligent beings out... oy
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
25,107 posts, read 34,366,957 times
Reputation: 4893
Quote:
Originally Posted by TnHilltopper View Post
YAY 70 miles complete! Only 1,880 more miles to go at exactly how much per mile? Fence won't even keep my dog in the yard, I am sure however it will keep sentient intelligent beings out... oy
This but the first of a number of sections being built / completed. And yes, it is going to help stem the tide of illegals. NO ONE has even suggested it would stop the flow -

But, the fence, along with the virtural fence, along with increasing border patrols, along with new, strong laws, against employers hiring illegals, along with increasing law enforcement, WILL go a long way to stemming the tide.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 10:48 AM
 
11,128 posts, read 12,375,545 times
Reputation: 3668
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
This but the first of a number of sections being built / completed. And yes, it is going to help stem the tide of illegals. NO ONE has even suggested it would stop the flow -

But, the fence, along with the virtural fence, along with increasing border patrols, along with new, strong laws, against employers hiring illegals, along with increasing law enforcement, WILL go a long way to stemming the tide.
I suspect that the physical fence is a complete waste of money. The virtual fence that is more patrols, electronic surveillance combined with policing employers will do much more.

To be honest I think the one thing that needs to be addressed most of all is the economic disparity between our two countries, the reason for the flood of illegals in the first place. Anyone remember when Vincete Fox made the comments about Mexicans breeding themselves into a majority in the Southwestern US only to watch him and Bush lick each others boots? ugh...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 10:51 AM
 
1,352 posts, read 4,158,471 times
Reputation: 570
Quote:
Originally Posted by TnHilltopper View Post
To be honest I think the one thing that needs to be addressed most of all is the economic disparity between our two countries, the reason for the flood of illegals in the first place.
It's not our responsibility to fix the economic disparity in Mexico. Hell the U.S. has enough economic disparities here at home, that it has yet to fix.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 10:54 AM
 
11,128 posts, read 12,375,545 times
Reputation: 3668
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayannaaaliyah View Post
It's not our responsibility to fix the economic disparity in Mexico. Hell the U.S. has enough economic disparities here at home, that it has yet to fix.
I never stated it was our responsibility, only that it is an issue that needs to be addressed more seriously.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 11:31 AM
 
69,372 posts, read 53,608,091 times
Reputation: 9357
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayannaaaliyah View Post
While a fence may be a small deterent, the real issue is that the govt. must penalize employers for hiring illegals. Once this is done, then the illegals will STOP trying to flew their country, because there will be NO work for them. There is a guest worker program in place - we DO NOT need any more. Just enforce the LAWS-PERIOD it's simple. If the govt hadn't sold us (Americans) for big business, then the problem with undocumented immigrants wouldn't be an issue. Geez, at what point can we get someone in office that has morals/values, sincere, and can't be PURCHASED?
There is one other important aspect, we need to start to throw the illegal aliens back out as they are found, instead of just letting them go.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 11:34 AM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
2,087 posts, read 1,053,512 times
Reputation: 382
Quote:
Originally Posted by TnHilltopper View Post
I suspect that the physical fence is a complete waste of money. The virtual fence that is more patrols, electronic surveillance combined with policing employers will do much more.

To be honest I think the one thing that needs to be addressed most of all is the economic disparity between our two countries, the reason for the flood of illegals in the first place. Anyone remember when Vincete Fox made the comments about Mexicans breeding themselves into a majority in the Southwestern US only to watch him and Bush lick each others boots? ugh...

The electronic surveillance they do have recently broke down. We need fences and lots of them all across the border.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2007, 11:43 AM
 
11,128 posts, read 12,375,545 times
Reputation: 3668
Quote:
Originally Posted by citigirl View Post
The electronic surveillance they do have recently broke down. We need fences and lots of them all across the border.
Fences, walls, moats filled with alligators, laser guns, land mines, and ferrets with rabies too!

Meanwhile as we spend our nation into abject poverty, there will be no reason for people to want to come here as this nation will end up just as poor as the nation where those who wish to come here are from in the first place.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top