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Old 07-16-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Actually they do just walk across the border and make this country their home...
Actually walking across is not so much the thing now (with the fence/sensors), it might be a "visa overstay" (including the equivalent from VWP countries) too...

If they walk across, it does mean deportation when caught...
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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12 million too many.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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This news story seems at odds with your assessment of how easy illegals have it here in the USA.
Deportations Of Immigrants Hits Record Number Under Obama Administration

Heres another and yes while many are indeed felons many others arent..

U.S. deportations reach historic levels - CNN

Doesnt sound like the Obama admin is sitting idly by while aliens supposedly just walk into the country and stay..
It's futile to deport without securing our borders. Most return -- again, and again, and again. But, his deportation record does make good press.

Deported illegal immigrants return repeatedly | The Columbus Dispatch

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/wo...pagewanted=all

Regardless, his "record" deportations are only one side of the story. Here's another. . .

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The union, the National ICE Council, is troubled that the president is pandering to pro-illegal-immigration activists. The head of the union said the order to free illegal aliens forces immigration officials to ignore the law.
Union fights Obama's lax immigration policy | timesfreepress.com

Huge rise seen in ICE cases released on bail - Houston Chronicle

Administration names official advocate for illegal immigrants - Washington Times

Obama administration to begin granting work permits to some young immigrants instead of deporting them | NJ.com


Illegal aliens seem pretty comfy to me.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:34 PM
 
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I agree with others. We heard that there were 11 million here 10 freakin years ago. Just the order from Obuma not to deport the alien kids affected over 6 million they said.. Real estimate of how many illegals we have here is more like 25 million.....and thousands more pouring in every day. We need a national ID and we need it NOW.....
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Pa
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The fact of the matter is we dont have a clue as to the actual numbers. The reason is obvious, they never passed through a check point that tracked their coming or going. Any organization regardless if it is government or private that claims to have a number is making a false claim.
They have guesstimates. Guesstimates are flawed at best and normally agenda driven.
To answer the op's question. The answer is too many.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Could be 5 million then? 2...1...
No way -- California has twice that many alone !!
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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I agree with others. We heard that there were 11 million here 10 freakin years ago. Just the order from Obuma not to deport the alien kids affected over 6 million they said.. Real estimate of how many illegals we have here is more like 25 million.....and thousands more pouring in every day. We need a national ID and we need it NOW.....
Exactly.

They claimed there were 11 million illegals here over 10 years ago and there is no way that many millions have not arrived since then. The census alone proves that. In 10 years the census shows a tremendous increase in "hispanics" and it's not because the long-time American hispanics decided to start gulping fertility pills. Even the government acknowledges these 200-400% increases in the population of hispanics are from immigration.

Ten-twelve years ago when they estimated 11 million illegals were here, there was not the amount of Spanish being spoken as there is now, it was a far more isolated problem 10-12 years ago. It's at least doubled.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:12 AM
 
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Could be 5 million then? 2...1...
The 11-12 million is the ones they know about. There could be another 11-12 they don't know about.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:18 AM
 
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With multiple sources and data to back it up. I believe this much more than 1 out of every 6 people are illegal.

Also, It makes logical sense that the number has went down during the recession too: 12.7 peak in 2007...11.2 now.
You're assuming 300,000,000 + is the correct number for the population? Counting unknown illegal aliens, the population could be close to 350,000,000.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:32 AM
 
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I agree with others. We heard that there were 11 million here 10 freakin years ago. Just the order from Obuma not to deport the alien kids affected over 6 million they said.. Real estimate of how many illegals we have here is more like 25 million.....and thousands more pouring in every day. We need a national ID and we need it NOW.....
Obama has also ordered that no illegal aliens be deported unless they've been convicted of a felony.
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