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Old 07-17-2012, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Obama has also ordered that no illegal aliens be deported unless they've been convicted of a felony.
So if the Border Patrol catch a foreign national on unauthorized entry right at the border, what happens to that illegal alien?...
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:51 AM
 
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Obama has also ordered that no illegal aliens be deported unless they've been convicted of a felony.
No, he hasn't. The executive order he issued covers only a portion of the illegal population; those who came before their mid-teens, are in school or graduated, etc. etc. California and D.C. are currently trying to implement 'anti-Arizona' laws, but these aren't issued by Obama.

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You're assuming 300,000,000 + is the correct number for the population? Counting unknown illegal aliens, the population could be close to 350,000,000.
Actually the census includes illegal aliens. One of the methods used to calculate the illegal immigrant population is to subtract citizens, permanent residents, and legal aliens from the final tally. This though offers a questionable number since it's unclear how many are simply errors from the former three categories.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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You're assuming 300,000,000 + is the correct number for the population? Counting unknown illegal aliens, the population could be close to 350,000,000.
Nah, I remember that there was much less people 10 years ago, plus I've heard a number of stories about population issues elsewhere in the United States. I say our population has to be at least 600 million. The Census Bureau obviously under-estimated, or they are complicit in the conspiracy.

What, you guys are saying you determine illegal alien numbers the same way...
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:01 AM
 
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You're assuming 300,000,000 + is the correct number for the population? Counting unknown illegal aliens, the population could be close to 350,000,000.
With only 112 million souls in all of Mexico (2011 census)you are saying 50 million of them have illegally migrated to the USA in the last decade? For that to be a credible number they'd have to be pouring over the borders by the thousands every day,and if they were pouring over the borders in those numbers i'd think the local border towns would notice thousands of people entering their towns every day,the roads would be clogged with people walking from the border areas. Sounds to me like your estimate might have a few too many zeros tacked on.
Also odd or coincidental how all these illegals decided to invade the USA since Obama took office.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:04 AM
 
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No, he hasn't. The executive order he issued covers only a portion of the illegal population; those who came before their mid-teens, are in school or graduated, etc. etc. California and D.C. are currently trying to implement 'anti-Arizona' laws, but these aren't issued by Obama.



Actually the census includes illegal aliens. One of the methods used to calculate the illegal immigrant population is to subtract citizens, permanent residents, and legal aliens from the final tally. This though offers a questionable number since it's unclear how many are simply errors from the former three categories.
MILLER: Obama's immigration shake-up - Washington Times


... amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. In ... That means most criminal aliens can stay, and only convicted felons ...
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:09 AM
 
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MILLER: Obama's immigration shake-up - Washington Times


... amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. In ... That means most criminal aliens can stay, and only convicted felons ...
Again, what happens to that illegal alien caught at the border?...
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Garland Texas
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It doesn't matter whether its 1 or 100 million.......any illegal is one too many!
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:08 AM
 
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MILLER: Obama's immigration shake-up - Washington Times


... amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. In ... That means most criminal aliens can stay, and only convicted felons ...
You haven't read the actual executive order have you? It has requirements that illegals have to meet in order to apply for it. Such as having been brought over as teens, at the latest, and attaining a high school degree. It doesn't provide a pathway to citizenship either, if you happen to be under that illusion.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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With only 112 million souls in all of Mexico (2011 census)you are saying 50 million of them have illegally migrated to the USA in the last decade? For that to be a credible number they'd have to be pouring over the borders by the thousands every day,and if they were pouring over the borders in those numbers i'd think the local border towns would notice thousands of people entering their towns every day,the roads would be clogged with people walking from the border areas. Sounds to me like your estimate might have a few too many zeros tacked on.
Also odd or coincidental how all these illegals decided to invade the USA since Obama took office.
El Paso certainly has noticed many thousands of new people. The population has increased very rapidly in just a few years.

The population growth of the USA is at third world proportions, yet the birth rates of Americans stabilized a long time ago. We're adding millions of people every year.

October 2006, was when we hit the 300,000,000 mark. Now in just 6 short years, it's up to 313,000,000 -- again, not due to the birth rates of Americans. That's 13 million people in just 6 years!
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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Again, what happens to that illegal alien caught at the border?...
Not much. All the illegal has to do is get about 2 feet away from that border and he's home free. Very few illegals are caught at the border because all it takes to cross the border is a laser border crossing card -- fake is fine and there's a big business in fake border crossing cards. They often just rent the card, once on the USA side, someone retrieves the cards so they can be reused over and over and over.

Or they can catch a bus to take them to where the fence and patrols end and simply walk on over. They have roads right up to the border in Mexico. If they're caught crawling through a fence or in a sewer tunnel, then they get sent back but that is just a temporary delay.
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