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Old 07-20-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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They can't thrive sucking off of their own government, so they come here and suck off of ours. Then once we can no longer sustain them, they go back home for more handouts. Maybe they should go to Canada. They are doing better up north than we are. We have nothing left, thanks to those who suck off of our economy. That is what happens when you have millions who survive on handouts. Over half the country doesn't pay into the system. Those of us who do (well not me anymore since being laid off) can't sustain millions of others who will not take care of themselves. And then there are people like me who paid into it for years, lost my job, can't get another one, and then we too become a burden to the system. Luckily, at least for now, my husband has a job. After losing his small business it was VERY hard for him to get back on his feet, but at least he could. I haven't been able to. Luckily, I rely on him and not the government, but come Obama care, that will change for everyone.
This is not the American dream that we once had. I don't recognize the country that I was born and raised in. It's just sad.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:54 PM
 
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Is that to say Americans born to Mexicancitizens aren't eligible to collect government benefits? Those children had no say in going to Mexico!!! It's the parents fault, not theirs!!! WTH is wrong with Mexico???

It appears that those little Americans are considered illegals in Mexico.

What a great way to DISCOURAGE illegal Mexicans in the US to return to Mexico with their American bambinos - no government bennies for your baby!!!! This will only ENCOURAGE Obama to find another excuse to justify why illegals should be given amnesty. How would that go? We must give undocumented Mexican illegals amnesty because their own government is denying their children who are American citizens government benefits.
Obama is hard at work right now trying to figure a way to send welfare checks to the children Mexico will not accept. Maybe he will try to give mexico extra money to allow us to send money to the children.....He loves the illegals and their kids..
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:16 AM
 
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Obama is hard at work right now trying to figure a way to send welfare checks to the children Mexico will not accept. Maybe he will try to give mexico extra money to allow us to send money to the children.....He loves the illegals and their kids..
I won't be a bit surprised if the next thing we hear is US citizen children living in Mexico with their Mexican citizen parents are receiving welfare checks from the US.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:07 AM
 
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I won't be a bit surprised if the next thing we hear is US citizen children living in Mexico with their Mexican citizen parents are receiving welfare checks from the US.
Define "welfare check"...
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Obama is hard at work right now trying to figure a way to send welfare checks to the children Mexico will not accept. Maybe he will try to give mexico extra money to allow us to send money to the children.....He loves the illegals and their kids..
Obama's administration is the one deporting the parents in many of these stories, how can you resolve that logic to say that he "loves" them?...
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:58 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Obama's administration is the one deporting the parents in many of these stories, how can you resolve that logic to say that he "loves" them?...
Deported (correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the majority illegals deported due to commiting a crime other than being in the US illegally?) or self-deported (the decline in US jobs due to the economy, husband/father was deported (found guilty of committing a crime?), in many cases it was the parent(s) choice to take the children back to Mexico to be with the deported father. The way I see it is that there are 1,100,000 fewer illegals in this country. From 2005 to 2009 there really wasn't that much deportation taking place.

You seem to missing the bigger picture. Mexico will not provide anything to people that are technically in THEIR country illegally or properly documented. The Mexican government wants the parent(s) to provide legal, attested proper documentation from the US government before they will allow these American born children to receive anything. The article indicates there are sources to help the parent(s) obtain the proper documentation, so this story is just hogwash.

There is nothing that says that Mexico has to follow the US trend - provide for illegals just because they are illegal. If you recall Mexico made it clear that they don't want illegals in THEIR country. Mexico is willing to take care of their own but not the children who are technically illegal unless they are documented. So where is the problem??

The twist is that these US born children in Mexico are truly undocumented Americans.

As with every problem that illegals have, it's the fault of the government, be it the US government or the Mexican government, and never the actions or decisions of illegals. If these illegals stayed in their own country or entered the US legally, they and their children wouldn't be in the situation they are in.

As I said, it is not a lost cause. They just need to follow the laws of Mexico, unlike their disregard to the laws of the US.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Obama's administration is the one deporting the parents in many of these stories, how can you resolve that logic to say that he "loves" them?...
Obama's administration is deporting the criminals!! Remember, he made deportation of criminals the priority. It's the "law abiding" undocumented Americans, who he hopes to gift with amnesty that he loves as they serve a higher purpose on his socialist agenda. He wants to rid the US of the criminal element (think Cuba and the flotilla when Castro emptied out his jails).
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:45 PM
 
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Obama's administration is deporting the criminals!! Remember, he made deportation of criminals the priority. It's the "law abiding" undocumented Americans, who he hopes to gift with amnesty that he loves as they serve a higher purpose on his socialist agenda. He wants to rid the US of the criminal element (think Cuba and the flotilla when Castro emptied out his jails).
I completely agree that Obama, and the Democratic party, is only pandering to the illegal immigration base for votes. In fact I'd argue that the Democratic Party hopes not only to win over votes, but the activists that make a disproportional fraction of the illegal population. I'll even concede that he wishes to impose further collectivist programs on the United States.

I do however have to disagree with his administration only deporting criminals. Many low priority cases, including many who would be eligible for the Dream Act, are still being deported. Obama administration wants to look soft on illegals for the votes, but that doesn't mean it actually intends to be. I wouldn't be surprised if, after securing his re-election, the administration increases its deportations.

P.S. In regards to post-script; yes the Mexican government makes it difficult for children born abroad to Mexican Citizens to verify that they are entitled to Mexican Citizenship. Not that it matters. If there is anything praise worthy of the Mexican government, it is that it is so corrupt and inefficient that one can avoid its rules if you throw pesos at the right person.

Last edited by Frank_Knight; 07-21-2012 at 10:48 PM.. Reason: Added Post-Script.
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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I suspect it's not just about votes but about placating that Mexican government after the Fast and Furious program became known.

The Mexican government is rightfully angry -- but again, their acceptance of Fast and Furious can be bought. Notice how quiet Mexico has been regarding Fast and Furious and how very compliant Obama has been with his amnesty and million new work visas...... even while Americans cannot find jobs.
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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I suspect it's not just about votes but about placating that Mexican government after the Fast and Furious program became known.

The Mexican government is rightfully angry -- but again, their acceptance of Fast and Furious can be bought. Notice how quiet Mexico has been regarding Fast and Furious and how very compliant Obama has been with his amnesty and million new work visas...... even while Americans cannot find jobs.
Mexico really needs to drop the attitude cause it has millions of its people here who ain't legal in the US.

Mexico also needs to make it easy for the US born kids of its citizens to get Mexican citizenship. At least those kids who are below 18.
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