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Old 03-02-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What these raza advocacy groups want is to gain political, numerical and cultural dominance in this country. That means we will lose the present identity of this nation to being Hispanic in identity instead. Since tribal ethnocentricism is prevelant among these groups with political power "everything will be for the raza and for the rest of us nada".
Actually: the worst thing that the la raza types would want is the USA going Hispanic due to the White supremacy of such culture. Remember the elite in Mexico is mostly White----------and, if us Anglos did turn 'Latino'--------it would screw the Chicanos over badly. Take a look at a Mx telenovela; the 'brown' people are usually the peons.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:32 PM
 
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That concerns me as well........besides; not all 'brown' people are Latino--------most Middle Easterners, East Indians, some Italians, Germans, English, Hungarians, etc. too have swarthy complexions. And of course there are the Native Americans.
Do not mistake having a British passport for actually being English! There are NO swarthy English people....none!
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Do not mistake having a British passport for actually being English! There are NO swarthy English people....none!
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Actually; I met a woman here in Arizona whom I thought was a Latina--------till she spoke. She was English. Many 'White' Englishmen look like light skinned Hispanics since quite a few are genetically similar to Spaniards.

Whereas Scots tend to have lighter complexions with the notable exceptions of folks like Dario Franchitti (Scotsman, born/raised of Italian heritage).
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Do not mistake having a British passport for actually being English! There are NO swarthy English people....none!
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If I understand you correctly, even if one is born in England and spends their entire life there, they are not considered “English” unless they have white skin? Does British law stipulate this? I thought Corrine Bailey-Rae is English, despite her biracial heritage. I also didn’t realize “English” denotes a particular race, as opposed to being a nationality.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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If I understand you correctly, even if one is born in England and spends their entire life there, they are not considered “English” unless they have white skin? Does British law stipulate this? I thought Corrine Bailey-Rae is English, despite her biracial heritage. I also didn’t realize “English” denotes a particular race, as opposed to being a nationality.
Good point. I also met a couple of English people (their accent, body language, etc. confirmed their 'culture')---------and, they were Black.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Good point. I also met a couple of English people (their accent, body language, etc. confirmed their 'culture')---------and, they were Black.
Yes, we’re everywhere.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:36 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Actually: the worst thing that the la raza types would want is the USA going Hispanic due to the White supremacy of such culture. Remember the elite in Mexico is mostly White----------and, if us Anglos did turn 'Latino'--------it would screw the Chicanos over badly. Take a look at a Mx telenovela; the 'brown' people are usually the peons.
So the Mexican Elite is sending the peons over to word and fight for rights and to change the "Complexion" of America?

Let me ask you this...Lets remove the 12-20 million aliens here.

now there are only Hispanic Americans, Black Americans, and Anglo American...Dont you think that this "Change" in complexion is not going to happen anyway?...With Bi-Racial Americans being the Fastest Growing group of Americans

With Anglo birthrates at all time lows, does it really matter if anglos lose their majority in number in 2060, or 3000...?

Its natural progresion, even without illegal aliens, American will change.
Look at 1860 to 1960...From Civil War to The Civil Rights Act.

2060...Most of us will be gone and the world will keep turning.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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<<So if Mexico takes over the USA and turns it into a third world country overnight, then the radical Muslims can come in and take them over,then the Chinese will be sitting in the wings....I don't think Mexico has a chance.>>

I've often thought this about the Muslims. They'd love to have this country fractured so they could move in and institute Sharia law. I don't know how that would fly with Hispanics, since most ot them are Catholic, but I'd suggest they get ready to bow to Allah 5 times a day. Illegal aliens should be careful what they wish for.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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So the Mexican Elite is sending the peons over to word and fight for rights and to change the "Complexion" of America?

Let me ask you this...Lets remove the 12-20 million aliens here.

now there are only Hispanic Americans, Black Americans, and Anglo American...Dont you think that this "Change" in complexion is not going to happen anyway?...With Bi-Racial Americans being the Fastest Growing group of Americans

With Anglo birthrates at all time lows, does it really matter if anglos lose their majority in number in 2060, or 3000...?

Its natural progresion, even without illegal aliens, American will change.
Look at 1860 to 1960...From Civil War to The Civil Rights Act.

2060...Most of us will be gone and the world will keep turning.
Race/ethnicity is NOT the issue. Illegal aliens are here in violation of our laws, period.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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So the Mexican Elite is sending the peons over to word and fight for rights and to change the "Complexion" of America?

Let me ask you this...Lets remove the 12-20 million aliens here.

now there are only Hispanic Americans, Black Americans, and Anglo American...Dont you think that this "Change" in complexion is not going to happen anyway?...With Bi-Racial Americans being the Fastest Growing group of Americans

With Anglo birthrates at all time lows, does it really matter if anglos lose their majority in number in 2060, or 3000...?

Its natural progresion, even without illegal aliens, American will change.
Look at 1860 to 1960...From Civil War to The Civil Rights Act.

2060...Most of us will be gone and the world will keep turning.
With the removal of 20 million illegals in this country (yes that is a more accurate figure) and 15 million of them probably being of latino extraction that would indeed go a long ways in not becoming another Hispanic nation in the future. I really don't care about someone's complexion but I do care about retaining the culture and identity of this country.

You are assuming that an anglo mating with a latino automatically changes the "complexion" of this country? How so? Their kids would be just as much anglo as latinos. Maybe that anglo doesn't want a half dozen kids like his/her latino spouse wants either.

There would be no "natural" progression of our country becoming Hispanic in identity with these illegals removed. Yes, it does matter to white, black, asian citizens that we retain our natural identity as a nation.
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