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Old 10-03-2007, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Denver
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So because we have gangs here already we must not look at the gangs that are coming in illegally? Point is stop illegals and you also get others benefits such as a reduced number of gangs.
Do you really think people come to America to form a gang?

I think it is the opposite, usually they come here with good intentions, then get angry by being treated like a dog, have to live in ghettos, then a small minority enter a gang.

One could draw a correlation to the African-Americans here. Oppression breeds hate, hate will manifest itself in groups.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:56 PM
 
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Default they are coming here

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Do you really think people come to America to form a gang?

I think it is the opposite, usually they come here with good intentions, then get angry by being treated like a dog, forced into ghettos, then enter a gang.

One could draw a correlation to the African-Americans here. Oppression breeds hate, hate will manifest itself in groups.
They are coming here already part of the gangs. Many many reports of this but if you just want to keep justifying or denying it, thats up to you.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Do you really think people come to America to form a gang?

I think it is the opposite, usually they come here with good intentions, then get angry by being treated like a dog, have to live in ghettos, then a small minority enter a gang.

One could draw a correlation to the African-Americans here. Oppression breeds hate, hate will manifest itself in groups.
they have no right to be angry at us, and we dont force them into ghettos, half they time the move into nice neighborhoods, that become ghettos, yes know from experience.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:58 PM
 
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Union with Canada; I don't know how many of you visit there, but we are increasing disliked. On the surface we may seem the same to the unseeing eye, but there is a world of difference in culture, the social fabric and legal and other traditions. The history of Canada was in many respects forged to ensure they did not become part of the US. Quebec leaving, well that may be, may not be, but they have no reason to be with us and reduce their standards.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:59 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I should do a drive though a couple of the housing projects we have here in El Paso TX and take pictures for you all to see... Now housing like this is for people who cant afford to live without assistance from the state, because they don't make enough money or something to that effect.

These houses are often filled with big screen TV's and the driveways have brand new tricked out cars in them.. how can they afford these items, if they cant pay the rent outside such living arrangements?

Also depending on the housing project, will also depend in what gang you belong too.. Gang violence is on the rise here once more. We had a gang task force at one time but our stupid city council didn't think it was worth paying for.. maybe they will change their minds soon and stop it before it gets outta hand.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Denver
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They are coming here already part of the gangs. Many many reports of this but if you just want to keep justifying or denying it, thats up to you.
Again I think we are talking a minority of 12 million illegals here in the US are in murdering gangs.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I should do a drive though a couple of the housing projects we have here in El Paso TX. Now housing like this is for people who cant afford to live without assistance from the state, because they don't make enough money or something to that effect.

These houses are often filled with big screen TV's and the driveways have brand new tricked out cars in them.. how can they afford these items, if they cant pay the rent outside such living arrangements?
No doubt, that always cracks me up.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:04 PM
 
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Again I think we are talking a minority of 12 million illegals here in the US are in murdering gangs.
exactly. why ignore the productive majority? if we are going to generally characterize the immigrants, it should be with a majority representative. its the same logic that tells us not all white people are in the kkk and we shouldnt be represented as such.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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exactly. why ignore the productive majority? if we are going to generally characterize the immigrants, it should be with a majority representative. its the same logic that tells us not all white people are in the kkk and we shouldnt be represented as such.
Well; Leander H. Perez, a deceased judge out of St Bernard Parish, Louisiana was not only a White Supremacist, he was also a member of the White Citizens Council-----the man's heritage was Spanish. Last time I checked; Spaniards are Hispanics. OK; not KKK (that I am aware of) but still.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Do you really think people come to America to form a gang?

I think it is the opposite, usually they come here with good intentions, then get angry by being treated like a dog, have to live in ghettos, then a small minority enter a gang.

One could draw a correlation to the African-Americans here. Oppression breeds hate, hate will manifest itself in groups.
Fair enough: where is the 'heart' of Latinos in Mexico to fight for their rights in their homeland yet some of them have the chutzpah to demand stuff here El Norte?
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