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Old 04-12-2008, 09:16 AM
 
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Like there are not people carrying neo-nazi signs and flags during anti-illegal marches?
Are there mobs of people marching with them, presumably in support of their ideas?

 
Old 04-12-2008, 09:23 AM
 
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Like there are not people carrying neo-nazi signs and flags during anti-illegal marches?
I've been in "anti-Illegal" protests in Ca. where neo-nazi and anything other than the main issue was banned from the protests, and litirally thrown out.
 
Old 04-12-2008, 09:40 AM
 
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Are there mobs of people marching with them, presumably in support of their ideas?
People are marching with them, the reality is the so called anti-illegal crowd don't have enough people supporting and marching with them in the first place. The pro-immigration marches have thousands of people marching with them but the so called anti-illegal crowd always have no more than 100 people marching with them.

Btw, they are not marching in support of the Aztlan ideas,they are marching for comprehensive immigration reform.
 
Old 04-12-2008, 09:47 AM
 
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People are marching with them, the reality is the so called anti-illegal crowd don't have enough people supporting and marching with them in the first place. The pro-immigration marches have thousands of people marching with them but the so called anti-illegal crowd always have no more than 100 people marching with them.

Btw, they are not marching in support of the Aztlan ideas,they are marching for comprehensive immigration reform.
Americans are required to show up to work but many illegals have no jobs, or they have day labor jobs so missing work to protest is no hardship at all, or they live off welfare handouts and can easily spend their days protesting.

They are not marching for fair immigration reform because fair reform would mean that all people follow the same rules, that immigration is not limited to only Mexicans and that immigration levels be held to reasonable levels. Fair immigration protects the American worker and the American taxpayer, jobs for Americans first, and where there's a true labor shortage, then the employer must sponsor an immigrant and follow the legal process.

They are marching with their huge Mexican flags and Che Guevara posters for a reason. They are not about fairness, we also cannot have our country just eliminated and Americans all put out of jobs because outsiders want our jobs. They aren't constantly demanding the Mexican government get involved in our protests out of any sense of fairness.
 
Old 04-12-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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Americans are required to show up to work but many illegals have no jobs, or they have day labor jobs so missing work to protest is no hardship at all, or they live off welfare handouts and can easily spend their days protesting.

They are not marching for fair immigration reform because fair reform would mean that all people follow the same rules, that immigration is not limited to only Mexicans and that immigration levels be held to reasonable levels. Fair immigration protects the American worker and the American taxpayer, jobs for Americans first, and where there's a true labor shortage, then the employer must sponsor an immigrant and follow the legal process.

They are marching with their huge Mexican flags and Che Guevara posters for a reason. They are not about fairness, we also cannot have our country just eliminated and Americans all put out of jobs because outsiders want our jobs. They aren't constantly demanding the Mexican government get involved in our protests out of any sense of fairness.
ITA. Let's not forget that LaRaza receives plenty of corporate and American tax dollars to sponsor the marches and import the illegals in by the busloads to participate in them.
 
Old 04-12-2008, 11:17 AM
 
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People are marching with them, the reality is the so called anti-illegal crowd don't have enough people supporting and marching with them in the first place. The pro-immigration marches have thousands of people marching with them but the so called anti-illegal crowd always have no more than 100 people marching with them.

Btw, they are not marching in support of the Aztlan ideas,they are marching for comprehensive immigration reform.
The people who carry signs with KKK type messages typically have maybe 4-8 supporters standing there with them. And they are usually removed in fairly short order. I have yet to see or hear of a neo-nazis or Klansmen who show up at a march with large numbers of supporters. Other than the group You Don't Speak For Me, it appears to me that many illegal aliens from SOB and, unfortunately, legal US citizens tacitly support the idea of reconquista. It may go by other names, but the underlying message that they have a supposed 'right' to live in the US irrespective of US law seems to resonate with too many.
 
Old 04-12-2008, 11:30 AM
 
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ITA. Let's not forget that LaRaza receives plenty of corporate and American tax dollars to sponsor the marches and import the illegals in by the busloads to participate in them.
La Raza is a US organization, not Mexican, and it does not represent the Mexican government or the Mexican populace. It has its own agenda "north of the border".

And they are importing "illegals in by the busloads . . . ." It would require an idiot to believe that -- what border crossing are they using? Or are these busses just running the desert??
 
Old 04-12-2008, 12:20 PM
 
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The people who carry signs with KKK type messages typically have maybe 4-8 supporters standing there with them. And they are usually removed in fairly short order. I have yet to see or hear of a neo-nazis or Klansmen who show up at a march with large numbers of supporters. Other than the group You Don't Speak For Me, it appears to me that many illegal aliens from SOB and, unfortunately, legal US citizens tacitly support the idea of reconquista. It may go by other names, but the underlying message that they have a supposed 'right' to live in the US irrespective of US law seems to resonate with too many.
The anti- illegal marches usually have that number showing up to spport them. LOL
 
Old 04-12-2008, 12:23 PM
 
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The anti- illegal marches usually have that number showing up to spport them. LOL
We prefer to work within the system for change through legal venues. Right now, we do not see a mob mentality as the best way to get our message across.
 
Old 04-12-2008, 12:37 PM
 
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We prefer to work within the system for change through legal venues. Right now, we do not see a mob mentality as the best way to get our message across.
Ahh, i bet you consider the people who gathered for the million man march mobs too.

I would love it if you can post a story about those who marched in the immigration marches causing civil unrest or some being arrest for violence.
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