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Old 08-03-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Frank_Knight View Post
It's only been a few hours, be patient.

As I've said before, as a libertarian, I distinguish law and legislation. Immigration is an attempt to cartelize labour in the country in order to artificially raise nominal wages. It's a tariff, with many emotional sides to it, but ultimately a tariff. What was broken? A tariff? That isn't the sacred law. I do not believe my parents criminals. No more than I think tariff evaders during the Revolutionary War were criminals.

I think the real criminal is FDR who both began the New Deal and raised immigration tariffs to their current state.

This is surely not a satisfactory response, but as a libertarian there is simply no crime. For full disclosure, I believe most drug offenders are being held in jail illegaly and should be set free at once. I also think prostitution is no crime. Hell, I don't think polygamy is wrong and am ashamed that the federal government waged war against the Mormons over it.
Shouldn't it be: as a libertarian, I distinguish between Natural law and legal legislation (feudal law).

Sacred Law? You again mean Natural Law, don't you? Or is "sacred law" that of the bible?

You are aware that most Libertarians understand the need for legal legislation and hold to natural law not bible law, right.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by Frank_Knight View Post
It's only been a few hours, be patient.

As I've said before, as a libertarian, I distinguish law and legislation. Immigration is an attempt to cartelize labour in the country in order to artificially raise nominal wages. It's a tariff, with many emotional sides to it, but ultimately a tariff. What was broken? A tariff? That isn't the sacred law. I do not believe my parents criminals. No more than I think tariff evaders during the Revolutionary War were criminals.

I think the real criminal is FDR who both began the New Deal and raised immigration tariffs to their current state.

This is surely not a satisfactory response, but as a libertarian there is simply no crime. For full disclosure, I believe most drug offenders are being held in jail illegaly and should be set free at once. I also think prostitution is no crime. Hell, I don't think polygamy is wrong and am ashamed that the federal government waged war against the Mormons over it.
I wonder if you would have a different perspective if you lived in Mexico, and millions of Haitians decided to live there illegally and wreak havoc in your country.

I think you "distinguish between law and legislation," and deny the existence of crime, because, to do otherwise, would force you to acknowledge painful truths. We all use defense mechanisms to cope with internal conflict. So, your attitude is not surprising. It's similar to a battered wife, who convinces herself her husband beats her because he loves her. She knows the truth, but subconsciously, she forces herself to believe a lie, to cope.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: California
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Shouldn't it be: as a libertarian, I distinguish between Natural law and legal legislation (feudal law).

Sacred Law? You again mean Natural Law, don't you? Or is "sacred law" that of the bible?

You are aware that most Libertarians understand the need for legal legislation and hold to natural law not bible law, right.
It should read as federal law not feudal law.
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