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Old 08-11-2012, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The Dream Act should and must only apply to people who are here LEGALLY!!!
Unfortunately, only illegal aliens qualify for the DREAM Act. Illegals even pay lower tuition rates than foreign students here legally on visas. This is absolute insanity.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Update: She can stay! Apparently they realize how bad it would look if they forced her to leave while rolling out the red carpet to millions of illegals. It would also be obvious DACA was offered solely for Hispanic votes. Obama would have some explaining to do.


British-born woman brought to America at 4-years-old granted permission to stay in her adopted homeland - NY Daily News
That's great news.

Not only would it look bad, but it would have been just plain wrong!!! Thanks to Claire Mccaskill - a Democrat. Who knows if it was to put out a potential fire that could erupt for Obama or if she truly saw that it was the wrong thing to do. I can't believe that behind closed doors democrats are in total agreement with Obama's immigration policies. Obama's immigration policies for Mexicans reeks of discrimination.

I hope other young people in her position are allowed to continue their lives in the US.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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Can't she apply for the "dream" act?
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's great news.

Not only would it look bad, but it would have been just plain wrong!!! Thanks to Claire Mccaskill - a Democrat. Who knows if it was to put out a potential fire that could erupt for Obama or if she truly saw that it was the wrong thing to do. I can't believe that behind closed doors democrats are in total agreement with Obama's immigration policies. Obama's immigration policies for Mexicans reeks of discrimination.

I hope other young people in her position are allowed to continue their lives in the US.
I agree. I can't believe other Democrats in Congress do not oppose Obama's pandering. But, they won't dare comment so close to the election. But, I'm sure there will be other cases to expose this travesty.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Can't she apply for the "dream" act?
The DREAM Act is only for those who were brought to this country illegally, or their parents overstayed visas. Her parents have not violated our laws.
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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Update: She can stay! Apparently they realize how bad it would look if they forced her to leave while rolling out the red carpet to millions of illegals. It would also be obvious DACA was offered solely for Hispanic votes. Obama would have some explaining to do.


British-born woman brought to America at 4-years-old granted permission to stay in her adopted homeland - NY Daily News
I'm glad things were made right for that lady. I'd say the SAME thing if the people in this thread were "brown" Hispanics instead of anglo whites.
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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Please! The "Dream Act" is only for Hispanics....doh!
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Old 08-11-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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Please! The "Dream Act" is only for Hispanics....doh!
I'm getting that as well. Tho probably only certain Hispanics like "brown" Mexicans; white Spaniards don't count.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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I'm not sure how you got the impression that I am "implying" anything about Dreamies. In fact, I never even alluded to whether they do or do not support this girl. But, since you mentioned it. . . . . .
The tone of your initial post implied a difference between those whose parents came over and overstayed their visas or entered without inspection versus those who entered on a visa and hadn't overstayed. It was unclear if this implication was there, or simply an unintended tone.

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While some believe she should be allowed to stay, others show no compassion for her whatsoever, which is rather ironic given their constant whining about their "unfair" treatment. Given their status and circumstances, I would expect them to empathize with her. But, Dreamies have consistently shown themselves to be a narcissistic group, so their attitudes are not surprising.
For example this portion sounds to imply there is a difference between this girl and Dreamers. I don't see the difference. The girl is a potential overstayer - although luckily it seems she won't be deported or acrue unlawful presence. Several other dreamers were brought over legally and, when faced with similar scenarios, overstayed their legal presence rather than go somewhere they didn't consider home.

I do concede that I am disappointed in those dreamers who have... elitist views when comparing themselves to others.

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No, this is NOT a perfect example of what's wrong with DACA or the DREAM Act. However, it IS a perfect example of illegals receiving better treatment than legal immigrants. And, we certainly don't need immigration reform aka amnesty. Amnesty and the lack of immigration enforcement is the reason we are in this mess.
Again, a perfect example of why the DREAM Act and DACA are imperfect. Visa overstayers, as she would have been if she refused to self-deport to a place she didn't presumably consider home or receiving benefit last minute, will not benefit from DACA if their visas expired after June 15th 2012. It doesn't take into account those who aged out either; the original dreamers are reaching their 30s and DACA has only helped out those who are 2nd or 3rd generation.

The DREAM Act too, as you put it, helps 'illegals' more so than 'legals'. Both are imperfect solutions and the immigration system as a whole needs to be overhauled. Contrary to claims by certain people, the current system is hardly generous.

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Please! The "Dream Act" is only for Hispanics....doh!
Tell that to the several thousand illegal Irish dreamers over at Boston or illegal Canadians in the midwest. The DREAM Act is imperfect, but it isn't only for hispanics.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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As a legal immigrant I couldn't not sign this. You can bet she ain't the first legal immigrant who actually contributes to society who's faced this sort of issue.
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