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Old 08-12-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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And now Fox News has obtained a 92 page draft document that shows lawyers and bureaucrats at U.S. citizenship and immigration services, CIS, an agency within the DHS, batting around still more ideas for the new policy.

One official suggested the agencies could "adopt a different definition of misdemeanor." And no application, it seems, will be rejected outright.

"The fact that DHS is going to ignore certain misdemeanors, or numbers of misdemeanors, or attempt to redefine what a misdemeanor is, is a strong indication to me that the administration is going to accept certain criminal backgrounds and histories," Chris Crane said, president of national ICE council.

DHS officials told Fox News the draft paper "should not be confused with final operational decision."
Document shows Obama administration wrestling with 'Dream Act' - Tucson News Now

By the time DHS finishes tweaking this policy, all but "convicted" rapists and murderers may qualify. Watch them drop a single incident of DUI from the ineligible list.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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Document shows Obama administration wrestling with 'Dream Act' - Tucson News Now

By the time DHS finishes tweaking this policy, all but "convicted" rapists and murderers may qualify. Watch them drop a single incident of DUI from the ineligible list.
Agreed. They need to visit that forum and read the multitude of criminal activity that comprises the character of these losers that are about to be given free reign in this country.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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Agreed. They need to visit that forum and read the multitude of criminal activity that comprises the character of these losers that are about to be given free reign in this country.
If they aren't criminals, I wonder why so many are worried about having records expunged, or the number of offenses they can have and still qualify.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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Felony document fraud and felony identity theft were dropped from the get-go.

The radio stations geared to and promoting illegals already made it clear on day one that DWIs would not count against the illegal getting in on this amnesty. Nor would shoplifting arrests be problem but armed robbery might be.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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How do you "create a new meaning" for a misdemeanor for one segment of society and apply the standard definition to others? That's like saying that a citizen charged with first degree murder will be tried for first degree murder, and "creating a new meaning" of first degree murder to "assault" when it applies to illegals.

They are opening a can of worms because I believe any American who is arrested for a misdemeanor as is currently defined by law, can use this "new meaning" to argue his/her case. All it would take is one American to win the argument and there begins the precedent.

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Old 08-12-2012, 11:24 AM
 
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If they aren't criminals, I wonder why so many are worried about having records expunged, or the number of offenses they can have and still qualify.

News flash, only citizens are held responsible for their crimes.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This administration redefines the law and calls "the law" guidance instead.
The only one to stop this is Congress and they have been silent on this..100% silence on both sides.
They are scared of something and are letting this administration rule by EO and reinterpreted laws.
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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This administration redefines the law and calls "the law" guidance instead.
The only one to stop this is Congress and they have been silent on this..100% silence on both sides.
They are scared of something and are letting this administration rule by EO and reinterpreted laws.
This is what is puzzling me. Why isn't congress raising hell about this and in particular the Republicans? Is it because it is an election year and no one wants to look like the bad guy? I guess standing up for the rule of law is being the bad guy these days. Unbelievable.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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I guess standing up for the rule of law is being the bad guy these days. Unbelievable.
Just ask ICE agents who are threatened with losing their jobs for enforcing the law.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:31 PM
 
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Our own government is working behind the seems to reward criminal behavior for purely political purposes.

Think long and hard about that for a moment and ask yourselves how you can support this Administration any longer.

Frankly, this should offend EVERY American to the highest degree.
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