Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 08-17-2012, 06:32 PM
 
62,938 posts, read 29,134,396 times
Reputation: 18577

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Packard fan View Post
Uh; YOU just might get what you want with that kind of talk. More and more people want ALL immigration from Mexico stopped so yeah; maybe you can call us "anti immigrant". Sad cause the Mexicans who come here legal ain't the problem. Yeah: I DID say "Mexican" cause MOST illegal aliens in the US are Mexican.
No, not really. If someone is truly anti-immigrant they want immigration stopped from everywhere.

 
Old 08-17-2012, 07:18 PM
 
3,204 posts, read 2,867,824 times
Reputation: 1547
You can add Nebraska to the list of No Drivers License and no bennies list.

Governor Says No To Driver's Licenses For Illegals
 
Old 08-17-2012, 07:31 PM
 
1,119 posts, read 1,370,948 times
Reputation: 652
I really would believe that Ms. Brewer is not a racist if it not for the fact a hate group is behind sb1070 (FAIR) which has been associated in the past with the Pioneer fund, a new nazi organization focused on eugenics. So it is about race.
 
Old 08-17-2012, 07:58 PM
 
62,938 posts, read 29,134,396 times
Reputation: 18577
Quote:
Originally Posted by mayita View Post
I really would believe that Ms. Brewer is not a racist if it not for the fact a hate group is behind sb1070 (FAIR) which has been associated in the past with the Pioneer fund, a new nazi organization focused on eugenics. So it is about race.
There is no evidence that FAIR is a hategroup. What you need to do is read what sb1070 is about and that it doesn't single out any race and that racial profiling is prohibited in it. I don't care who wrote it. What is in the bill and the wording of it is what counts. Obviously, the Supreme Court upheld the most important parts of it and they wouldn't do that if this was about race.
 
Old 08-17-2012, 08:04 PM
 
1,119 posts, read 1,370,948 times
Reputation: 652
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
There is no evidence that FAIR is a hategroup. What you need to do is read what sb1070 is about and that it doesn't single out any race and that racial profiling is prohibited in it. I don't care who wrote it. What is in the bill and the wording of it is what counts. Obviously, the Supreme Court upheld the most important parts of it and they wouldn't do that if this was about race.
Fair has been asociated in the past with the Pioneer Fund a neo nazi and pro-eugenics organization and the Southern southern law poverty center named FAIR as a hate group 5 years ago.

the adl also called fair a hate group. The pioneer fund has given money to fair (a lot) in the past and prob. keep doing it. The pioneer fund advocates for neo nazism and eugenics to keep the us population "racially desirable" or white

Immigrants Targeted: Extremist Rhetoric Moves into the Mainstream
 
Old 08-17-2012, 08:05 PM
 
1,119 posts, read 1,370,948 times
Reputation: 652
FAIR a "Hate Group"?

The Southern Poverty Law Center has declared the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a high profile advocate of immigration reform, to be a "hate" group. Here is the beginning of the story:
"The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is almost certainly the most-quoted immigration restriction organization in America. In just the last few weeks, its leaders have enlightened cable viewers with their views on such topics as “American ‘Intifada’ in Our Future?” “Driving While Illegal,” “Should ALL Illegal Aliens Be Deported?” and “Economic Impact of Migration.” In the past six years, FAIR officials have testified at least 30 times to Congress. Day in and day out, FAIR is taken seriously as a mainstream commentator on the immigration debate.
It shouldn’t be. The founder, chief ideologue and long-time funder of FAIR is a racist. Key staff members have ties to white supremacist groups, some are members, and some have spoken at hate group functions. FAIR has accepted more than $1 million from a racist foundation devoted to studies of race and IQ, and to eugenics — the pseudo-science of breeding a better human race that was utterly discredited by the Nazi euthanasia program. It spreads racist conspiracy theories. Its political ads have caused numerous politicians, Democratic and Republican, to denounce it."
 
Old 08-17-2012, 08:11 PM
 
62,938 posts, read 29,134,396 times
Reputation: 18577
Quote:
Originally Posted by mayita View Post
FAIR a "Hate Group"?

The Southern Poverty Law Center has declared the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a high profile advocate of immigration reform, to be a "hate" group. Here is the beginning of the story:
"The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is almost certainly the most-quoted immigration restriction organization in America. In just the last few weeks, its leaders have enlightened cable viewers with their views on such topics as “American ‘Intifada’ in Our Future?” “Driving While Illegal,” “Should ALL Illegal Aliens Be Deported?” and “Economic Impact of Migration.” In the past six years, FAIR officials have testified at least 30 times to Congress. Day in and day out, FAIR is taken seriously as a mainstream commentator on the immigration debate.
It shouldn’t be. The founder, chief ideologue and long-time funder of FAIR is a racist. Key staff members have ties to white supremacist groups, some are members, and some have spoken at hate group functions. FAIR has accepted more than $1 million from a racist foundation devoted to studies of race and IQ, and to eugenics — the pseudo-science of breeding a better human race that was utterly discredited by the Nazi euthanasia program. It spreads racist conspiracy theories. Its political ads have caused numerous politicians, Democratic and Republican, to denounce it."
The SPLC is not a credible source. They are biased. Words and incidents can be twisted to fit a certain agenda. It happens all the time and such is the case here.

I could give you my opinion of some groups I believe are racists also but not according to the SPLC they aren't even though all the pointers are there.

So why don't we get back on topic and you tell us what wording in sb1070 makes it racist and by Jan Brewer signing it that it makes her a racist to?
 
Old 08-17-2012, 08:13 PM
 
1,119 posts, read 1,370,948 times
Reputation: 652
Well fair recieved one million dollars from the PIONeer fund, a fund dedicated to promote eugenics and purification of the race.

Why would fair associate with this ideas if they were not racist?

Just follow the money.
 
Old 08-17-2012, 08:14 PM
 
1,119 posts, read 1,370,948 times
Reputation: 652
By accepting money from the Pioneer Fund, the Federation for American Immigration Reform puts itself in the company of a variety of racist projects. The Fund's other beneficiaries in recent years have included:

--Roger Pearson, director of the Institute for the Study of Man. A Wall Street Journal article in 1984 dubbed Pearson a "Racial Purist" who advocated artificial insemination to preserve pure, healthy stock" and warned of "terrible consequences" should such a program of genetic selection "fall into the hands of the cosmopolites or or one-worlders, or any who wish to see our race and our heritage destroyed."

Pearson's Institute publishes Mankind Ouarterly, described in the London Independent (3/4/90) as a "mouthpiece" for neo-Nazi philosophies, with links to former Nazi geneticists. Last grant to Pearson from the Pioneer Fund: $119,300, 1992.

--A study at the University of Western Ontario, comparing cranium size, gonad size and IQ distribution among blacks, whites and Asians (Sunday Telegraph, 3/12/89). Last grant: $96,753, 1992.

--Dr. Michael Levin, professor of philosophy at City College who claims that blacks as a group have low IQs. Last grant: $64,500, 1992.

--The late Professor William B. Shockley, who recommended a "voluntary sterilization bonus plan," or paying genetically "inferior" populations to be sterilized. (Sunday Telegraph, 3/1 2/89). Last grants were in the 1970's; figures not available.


When covering an issue as racially charged as immigration, journalists have an obligation to inform their audience if they are quoting a source that receives major funding from an explicitly racist source. This is particularly true in the case of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which has frequently provided the only non-governmental viewpoint on immigration policy in news reports.
 
Old 08-17-2012, 08:15 PM
 
1,119 posts, read 1,370,948 times
Reputation: 652
I am sure that money keeps flowing into FAIR now, only that it can be done as openly as in the past. The pioneer fund still exists and still call for the elimination of all non whites thru eugenics
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:07 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top