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Old 08-17-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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The most salient issues to be addressed include the efficiency and uniformity of the program by the government and service providers; those of confidentiality concerns for both applicants and their families and employers who have hired them, national and state-level issues of how to qualify for the educational attainment guideline, and unspecified guidelines of what crimes preclude registration.

As well, how states choose to react to DACA will be a significant factor in DACA's implementation, as already Arizona Governor Jan Brewer has issued an executive order noting the state will not grant driver's licenses or other public benefits to DACA recipients.
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States are not required to grant benefits and privileges to illegal aliens. Given that DACA does not grant legal status, and according to Federal law, one must have a lawful presence to work in this country, I do not understand how work permits can be issued, or how Dreamies can be employed without it being a violation of Federal law. This issue is going to get very messy.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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ImmigrationProf Blog: Key Factors, Unresolved Issues in New Deferred Action Program for Immigrant Youth Will Determine Its Success

States are not required to grant benefits and privileges to illegal aliens. Given that DACA does not grant legal status, and according to Federal law, one must have a lawful presence to work in this country, I do not understand how work permits can be issued, or how Dreamies can be employed without it being a violation of Federal law. This issue is going to get very messy.
Puzzling, indeed. I think that Obama just wanted to make it look like he was doing something to retain the Hispanic vote that he was losing with some.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Puzzling, indeed. I think that Obama just wanted to make it look like he was doing something to retain the Hispanic vote that he was losing with some.
Here's hoping that this travesty turns Black and White voters against him. Especially those who have lost everything, run out of their 99 weeks of unemployment and realize that the best thing they can do is help Obama to see what it feels like to want to keep your job only to end up amongst the unemployed.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Puzzling, indeed. I think that Obama just wanted to make it look like he was doing something to retain the Hispanic vote that he was losing with some.
Exactly. Had he actually given serious thought to this issue, he would have realized granting deferred action changes very little, other than they now no longer fear deportation. But, he does not have the authority to change their status from illegal to legal; and without legal status, they will remain disqualified from many benefits and privileges. He gave them false hope.

I wonder if he thought he could manage to fool them until after the election, and then admit he overstepped his bounds, but his intentions were good. In any case, he cannot dictate state laws. Nor can he force states to embrace his amnesty. This farce will soon explode in his face, because too much information is becoming available. It's getting real stinky.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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Exactly. Had he actually given serious thought to this issue, he would have realized granting deferred action changes very little, other than they now no longer fear deportation. But, he does not have the authority to change their status from illegal to legal; and without legal status, they will remain disqualified from many benefits and privileges. He gave them false hope.

I wonder if he thought he could manage to fool them until after the election, and then admit he overstepped his bounds, but his intentions were good. In any case, he cannot dictate state laws. Nor can he force states to embrace his amnesty. This farce will soon explode in his face, because too much information is becoming available. It's getting real stinky.
Maybe a stay of deportation was just enough to placate the pro-amnesty folks though. They won't be forced to leave for at least two years. It's a relief for a little while anyway while they make more demands to make it permanent and include their parents in it.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Maybe a stay of deportation was just enough to placate the pro-amnesty folks though. They won't be forced to leave for at least two years. It's a relief for a little while anyway while they make more demands to make it permanent and include their parents in it.
I think that was his plan. He probably said he'll worry about dealing with the post-election backlash when the time comes. His main objective is spending 4 more years in the White House, by any means necessary.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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Exactly. Had he actually given serious thought to this issue, he would have realized granting deferred action changes very little, other than they now no longer fear deportation. But, he does not have the authority to change their status from illegal to legal; and without legal status, they will remain disqualified from many benefits and privileges. He gave them false hope.

I wonder if he thought he could manage to fool them until after the election, and then admit he overstepped his bounds, but his intentions were good. In any case, he cannot dictate state laws. Nor can he force states to embrace his amnesty. This farce will soon explode in his face, because too much information is becoming available. It's getting real stinky.
They've been gearing up for this moment for years. They don't seem to care that it will not result in citizenship. They like their parents simply want to rape and ravage this country in any way that they feel will allow them to stay here indefinitely. Let's face it very few members of congress are willing to take a public stand against this lawless fiasco which has thus far served them very well. So much so they have no problem discussing their criminal activity in the run up to what may lead up to another amnesty.

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Old 08-17-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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State issues regarding employment, unemployment, state benefits were left up to the states.
This is very similar to how RTT (Race to the Top) was structured. That is how they can pass (or EO) policies so quickly now because they only address it at the Federal Level and let the states figure the rest out.

This will turn into a mess very quickly as different states have different policies.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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The success the powers-that-be are looking for is the votes they bring in by this, and the high unemployment rates don't bother the politicians in the least. They really don't give a damn if many Americans can not find work.
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