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Old 08-30-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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I think u r not far from the truth, elections are indeed decided in the swing states, but for the gop to have their holy grail, texas, go democrat will be a lethal blow, because they may win all the swing states, and not get near the electoral votes of the democrats, that's why the republicans, want to get rid of the electoral college(since it is more convenient for them now). Regarding FL, it is true the cubans still vote republican, however not heavily republican like in the past, now it is 60-40, and cubans are no longer the predominating population of spanish voters in florida, they are surpassed 3 to 1 by the combination of portorricans, colombians, venezuelans, nicaraguans, etc. and these are heavily democrat, I think the days of the gop are counted, too late to try to stop the influx of spanish illegals.....
Aren't we getting off the topic of illegal immigration? This isn't about the Democrats nor the Republicans this forum is about illegal immigration. Maybe you should be posting your thoughts in the Politics forum instead. The influx of Spanish speaking immigants are mostly coming here illegally. Last I looked you have to be a citizen to vote.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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I think u r not far from the truth, elections are indeed decided in the swing states, but for the gop to have their holy grail, texas, go democrat will be a lethal blow, because they may win all the swing states, and not get near the electoral votes of the democrats, that's why the republicans, want to get rid of the electoral college(since it is more convenient for them now). Regarding FL, it is true the cubans still vote republican, however not heavily republican like in the past, now it is 60-40, and cubans are no longer the predominating population of spanish voters in florida, they are surpassed 3 to 1 by the combination of portorricans, colombians, venezuelans, nicaraguans, etc. and these are heavily democrat, I think the days of the gop are counted, too late to try to stop the influx of spanish illegals.....
Texas will not be going blue for a number of years, 2030 would be the earliest that could happen. It will have no bearing on the 2012 or 2016 elections.

As for the electoral college, why would the (R's) want to get rid of it? What the (R's) want is a variation of it, it is the (D's) that want to get rid of it all together along with the majority of citizens. I think you are confusing the census and counting illegals giving more seats in Congress based on population, this is what the (R's) were strongly against.

The days of the GOP are counted? To late to stop illegal immigration? LMFAO Yet they have won and held Wisconsin to include the Gov's recall. They have picked off a number of seats in Congress in 2010, taken the House back, and are poised to take even more including, possibly the Senate and Presidency. All the nationalities you listed may lean heavy (D), doesn't mean they are all registered or that they can vote. The question is are there voting numbers large enough to make a difference? I say no, not this year or the next few elections. There numbers will only count in local elections provided they are voting in large enough numbers.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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yeah u r right only 50 million, who cares, with potential 30 million voters in 2016, out of a potential pool of 150 million voters, the only problem is that elections are always decided by a few million votes, so guess who has the deciding vote, ha, ha, ha
Uh; many Hispanics are American 1ST and DON'T want illegal aliens in the US, even illegals from Mexico. Sheesh!
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:12 PM
 
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I think u r not far from the truth, elections are indeed decided in the swing states, but for the gop to have their holy grail, texas, go democrat will be a lethal blow, because they may win all the swing states, and not get near the electoral votes of the democrats, that's why the republicans, want to get rid of the electoral college(since it is more convenient for them now). Regarding FL, it is true the cubans still vote republican, however not heavily republican like in the past, now it is 60-40, and cubans are no longer the predominating population of spanish voters in florida, they are surpassed 3 to 1 by the combination of portorricans, colombians, venezuelans, nicaraguans, etc. and these are heavily democrat, I think the days of the gop are counted, too late to try to stop the influx of spanish illegals.....
Uh; illegal immigration from Mexico is all but over and I'm gonna say most other LatAm illegals don't come here much any more either. It's way too scary and $5K for each illegal being paid to the coyotes is too much money.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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yeah u r right only 50 million, who cares, with potential 30 million voters in 2016, out of a potential pool of 150 million voters, the only problem is that elections are always decided by a few million votes, so guess who has the deciding vote, ha, ha, ha
Hopefully, after being schooled by Oldglory and Liquid Reigns, you are no longer clueless. And, if you were to do a little research, you would discover that contrary to the claim that Hispanics "put Obama in the White House," nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, he would have won without ONE Hispanic vote.

Furthermore, the topic of this thread is self-deportation, NOT the number of legal Hispanic voters; which, by the way, includes many opponents of illegal immigration.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:22 AM
 
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I think u r not far from the truth, elections are indeed decided in the swing states, but for the gop to have their holy grail, texas, go democrat will be a lethal blow, because they may win all the swing states, and not get near the electoral votes of the democrats, that's why the republicans, want to get rid of the electoral college(since it is more convenient for them now). Regarding FL, it is true the cubans still vote republican, however not heavily republican like in the past, now it is 60-40, and cubans are no longer the predominating population of spanish voters in florida, they are surpassed 3 to 1 by the combination of portorricans, colombians, venezuelans, nicaraguans, etc. and these are heavily democrat, I think the days of the gop are counted, too late to try to stop the influx of spanish illegals.....
Not all "hispanics" are here illegally, not all of them are going to vote for liberals. About 70% of hispanics are a liberal voting bloc but you have to remember that not all "hispanics" have close ties with Mexico and not all want uncontrolled and very massive immigration. Some "hispanics" are USA citizens and are taxpayers and aren't interested in the Aztlan agenda. They want jobs for their kids, they want better paying jobs, they aren't enthusiastic about having the USA look like another hispanic nation hell hole.

Romney is promising 12 million jobs -- and it doesn't appear that he's promising 12 million jobs only to those from hispanic nations who will get over here illegally to take them. In order to provide jobs for the people of the USA, a president would simply have to do something about the flood of low wage seekers pouring over the border illegally. It's that simple.

No one at all would mind if the employers of illegals are shut down with high fines and prison sentences. No one. And the many welfare handouts could be shut off to illegals --- then they would have no choice but to pack their bags and head on home. Where they belong.
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