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Old 09-21-2012, 05:09 AM
 
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Leaders lead, get things done; no matter what happens, or who is along, no matter what doesn't happen, or who is not along.

It is clear that Mr Obama's promises do not match up with his redistributionist intent. It is not a recipe for success for the country in toto.
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He did, but Obama really couldn't make that promise alone
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:13 AM
 
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Oh my gosh! Something else we can blame George W for. He actually tried to advance immigration reform, before it was fashionable and a progressive false flag. But of course, we don't talk about those things, when there are soooooo many other things on which to shift responsibility to W.

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What people fail to understand about Immigration is its opposition crosses party lines. When Bush tried amnesty angry voters called Congress to such a degree it shut down the switchboard. The callers weren't all Republicans.

Also before Obama decided to run for president he had downright conservative views on immigration. There are a couple clips of him stating his opposition to amnesty.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He did, but Obama really couldn't make that promise alone
But he did and got elected because of all those promises.
Then, at the end of his first year, promised the Hispanics yet again he would do something.

We've all been told this at one point in our lives:

Don't make promises you know you can't keep.
The US Presidency is not a dictatorship and Obama knew very well he shouldn't have made that promise because he, alone, could not make that happen. The best he could do was that amnesty EO he signed.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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He did, but Obama really couldn't make that promise alone
Wouldn't that be fraud?

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1. deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

2. a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.

3. any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.

4. a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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He cracked under pressure.

Obama is not a leader, he's a product of pop culture in America & a terrible president.
He is the product of his own pop culture. He's the one he's been waiting for. And a terrible president.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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Yes it is. It's not comprehensive immigration reform, but it is immigration reform. It's a top priority for immigration reformers.
Amnesty is not reform.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Obama is blocking the Dream Act from being signed into law?
No but he should be blocking it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Leaders lead, get things done; no matter what happens, or who is along, no matter what doesn't happen, or who is not along.

It is clear that Mr Obama's promises do not match up with his redistributionist intent. It is not a recipe for success for the country in toto.
Well said. Clinton was hated by the right and yet he found ways to get things done.
Obama's greatest strength is his ability to divide.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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Ramos should be firmly asked why he thinks hispanics are entitled to skip our immigration laws. Particularly low skilled hispanics who don't speak English and don't have job skills and don't pay any taxes -- they are the majority of the all illegals and they are a huge burden on the ordinary citizens of this country. Ramos is owed respect as an American. He is not owed the right to demand that hispanics have some sort of special immigrations granted solely on the basis of racial and ethnic considerations. It is that kind of assertion that makes so many Americans find illegals and their largely hispanic supporters so unpalatable.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:07 PM
 
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Ramos should be firmly asked why he thinks hispanics are entitled to skip our immigration laws. Particularly low skilled hispanics who don't speak English and don't have job skills and don't pay any taxes -- they are the majority of the all illegals and they are a huge burden on the ordinary citizens of this country. Ramos is owed respect as an American. He is not owed the right to demand that hispanics have some sort of special immigrations granted solely on the basis of racial and ethnic considerations. It is that kind of assertion that makes so many Americans find illegals and their largely hispanic supporters so unpalatable.
Exactly. It's odd that Obama was too cowardly to inform Ramos that he as president took an oath to uphold the laws of the USA.

He could have turned the tables so easily on this La Raza clown -- he could have asked Ramos exactly why "hispanics" are not expected to abide by our laws, ask him if he believes all 2 billion impoverished people in the world have a right to just come on in and expect a lavish lifestyle, or does Ramos believe non-hispanics should be expected to follow the laws but only hispanics are to be given a pass.

You never see these Aztlaners protest the deportation of Haitians. You really don't have to wonder why.
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