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Old 10-06-2007, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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The Poles in Ireland are legal migrants, and many of them intend to return to Poland after making some money. Poles are proud of their country and want to see it succeed but things are tough there right now. Ireland and the UK threw open the gates to citizens of the 10 new EU member nations in 2004 and did not adequately prepare for the impact on social services.

The Poles are legal, though.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:09 PM
 
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My Polish friends (I live in Chicago, we have a surplus of Poles) do not plan on moving back to Poland. They like the oppurtunities they have in our own country. They also have a lot more in common with Americans than Mexicans do with Americans. Common ancestry with the majority population. Common way of life. They do not represent a problem to me, because they are willing to make the assimilation to American way of life.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:32 PM
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My Polish friends (I live in Chicago, we have a surplus of Poles) do not plan on moving back to Poland. They like the oppurtunities they have in our own country. They also have a lot more in common with Americans than Mexicans do with Americans. Common ancestry with the majority population. Common way of life. They do not represent a problem to me, because they are willing to make the assimilation to American way of life.
I didn't say anything about Polish in America, I was drawing a correlation to Polish in Ireland and Mexicans in America.
Many in Ireland do not think the Poles are assimilating.

So what exactly are you saying "they have a lot more in common" " Common ancestry with the majority population."?

Does that mean something other than what I think it does? Are you scared of the uncommon?
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Many in Ireland do not think the Poles are assimilating.
I hate to be the one to point this out to you, but the Irish have a well-deserved reputation for xenophobia. I hear they're worse than the British, who criticized me for not assimilating because I didn't like going on weekly ****-ups or watching soccer.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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The Poles in Ireland are legal migrants, and many of them intend to return to Poland after making some money. Poles are proud of their country and want to see it succeed but things are tough there right now. Ireland and the UK threw open the gates to citizens of the 10 new EU member nations in 2004 and did not adequately prepare for the impact on social services.

The Poles are legal, though.
Yes currently completely different then here..O/P post was like comparing apples to oranges....
Ireland has more of a problem with the gypsies then the poles
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:20 PM
 
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I didn't say anything about Polish in America, I was drawing a correlation to Polish in Ireland and Mexicans in America.
Many in Ireland do not think the Poles are assimilating.

So what exactly are you saying "they have a lot more in common" " Common ancestry with the majority population."?

Does that mean something other than what I think it does? Are you scared of the uncommon?
Scared of the uncommon? No, I am scared that in 50 years when my kids are growing up, this country won't be the same as it was when I was growing up.
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:40 PM
 
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Anybody know what the immigration/migration rules for EU countries are?

Poland and Ireland are EU countries... I thought there was some sort of "easy" or "open" migration between EU countries, but I could be mistaken (and I honestly don't feel like researching it myself). Anyone with off hand knowledge sharing insight would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:52 PM
 
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Anybody know what the immigration/migration rules for EU countries are?

Poland and Ireland are EU countries... I thought there was some sort of "easy" or "open" migration between EU countries, but I could be mistaken (and I honestly don't feel like researching it myself). Anyone with off hand knowledge sharing insight would be greatly appreciated!
I already stated that it is legal for Poles to migrate to Ireland and the UK at the very least. Migration between EU countries is supposed to be open, though most of the original 15 restricted migration from the 10 new members that joined in 2004 and I think all of them restricted migration from Romania and Bulgaria, who joined earlier this year.
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:57 PM
 
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I already stated that it is legal for Poles to migrate to Ireland and the UK at the very least. Migration between EU countries is supposed to be open, though most of the original 15 restricted migration from the 10 new members that joined in 2004 and I think all of them restricted migration from Romania and Bulgaria, who joined earlier this year.
Sorry, I missed your post at the top of the page. But thanks.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I already stated that it is legal for Poles to migrate to Ireland and the UK at the very least. Migration between EU countries is supposed to be open, though most of the original 15 restricted migration from the 10 new members that joined in 2004 and I think all of them restricted migration from Romania and Bulgaria, who joined earlier this year.
So back to Mach50's original post: comparing Polish immigration to Ireland and immigration to the USA from any country is a classic case of apples and oranges.

One is 100% legal and the second can be illegal.
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