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Old 10-06-2007, 04:04 PM
 
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this country was built on occupation and colonization. i don't see what the problem is.


people had the same opinions of eastern europeans in the mid to late 1800s and early 1900s. many of the communities these people moved to even had schools that taught in their native languages.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:06 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We just need to stop treating them so well. No benefits, no banking, no accounts with utility companies like water, electricity, no schools for there kids, no joining local recreation clubs, no employment.
And no more 'press 1 for English' !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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this country was built on occupation and colonization. i don't see what the problem is.


people had the same opinions of eastern europeans in the mid to late 1800s and early 1900s. many of the communities these people moved to even had schools that taught in their native languages.
And the Euros assimilated to the point that try to find a US born/raised American today of the above heritage who does not speak English.

I am first generation US born (father is from Hungary) and my language is English........I do not speak Hungarian.

As for the so-called 'occupation and colonization' by Mexico et al.......I think not-------if anything, we will wind up owning Mexico, lock, stock and barrel the way things are going. SOB is so dysfunctional that it is pathetic.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:29 PM
 
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And the Euros assimilated to the point that try to find a US born/raised American today of the above heritage who does not speak English.

I am first generation US born (father is from Hungary) and my language is English........I do not speak Hungarian.

As for the so-called 'occupation and colonization' by Mexico et al.......I think not-------if anything, we will wind up owning Mexico, lock, stock and barrel the way things are going. SOB is so dysfunctional that it is pathetic.
Yeah, you are a first generation US born...immigrants aren't.

like i already said, in the early 1900s many eastern europeans were coming and people thought exactly the same about them as people do today about all the hispanics coming.

many schools were taught in german because of the amount of people who were relocating to the U.S. who spoke that language. As far as I know, almost all schools today teach in english. seems like a positive step to me.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:37 PM
 
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We have been occupied and colonized.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/study_says_illegal_alien_popul.php (broken link)

We all know that the 12 million number is bogus. Yup. No surprise here. We've known this all along. Only the sheeple who believe the MSM think it's only 12 million.

I like Terry Anderson's "90 Day Solution Without Confusion":

THE TERRY ANDERSON SHOW 90 DAY SOLUTION WITHOUT CONFUSION

Congress shall declare a 90 day amnesty for ALL illegal aliens. During that period NO status adjustments will be made. Zero! For 90 days illegal aliens will have the opportunity to dispose of any accumulated assets, both real and personal. Bought a house? Sell it! Bought a car? Sell it! Got a dog, give it away! They will have three months to settle their affairs and sever all ties to this country. At the end of the amnesty period, on day 91, ANY illegal alien still here will be considered a federal, felony fugitive and will be arrested and jailed. One year the first time. FIVE years the second time and TEN years the third time. We will build a tent prison in the California/Arizona desert and expand it as needed. Once jailed, all assets will be seized and sold at auction. All proceeds will be used to incarcerate said illegal aliens. These stipulations will apply to anyone who entered the country illegally OR any visa overstay of one day or more.

ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN CAUGHT IN THE UNITED STATES AFTER THE AMNESTY PERIOD HAS EXPIRED WILL BE BANNED FROM THE COUNTRY FOR LIFE!

On day 91, ANY employer who hires an illegal alien fugitive will be jailed. One year for the first offense, FIVE years for the second and TEN years for the third. These laws and penalties will also apply to any bank lending money to illegal aliens and anyone giving them aid and shelter, including churches.

American born children of illegal aliens will be placed in jeopardy by the actions of their parents. Since the American people had no hand in those actions, the responsibility for the care of those children will be that of their parents. If they self-deport, they have the option to take the kids with them or leave them here with an adult of their choice. If the parent is incarcerated as an illegal alien fugitive, they have the option of placing the children with an adult of their choice or making them wards of the federal government and placed in an institution until their release.

Excellent, excellent plan. Very fair, very easy to implement.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We have been occupied and colonized.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/study_says_illegal_alien_popul.php (broken link)

We all know that the 12 million number is bogus. Yup. No surprise here. We've known this all along. Only the sheeple who believe the MSM think it's only 12 million.

I like Terry Anderson's "90 Day Solution Without Confusion":

THE TERRY ANDERSON SHOW 90 DAY SOLUTION WITHOUT CONFUSION

Congress shall declare a 90 day amnesty for ALL illegal aliens. During that period NO status adjustments will be made. Zero! For 90 days illegal aliens will have the opportunity to dispose of any accumulated assets, both real and personal. Bought a house? Sell it! Bought a car? Sell it! Got a dog, give it away! They will have three months to settle their affairs and sever all ties to this country. At the end of the amnesty period, on day 91, ANY illegal alien still here will be considered a federal, felony fugitive and will be arrested and jailed. One year the first time. FIVE years the second time and TEN years the third time. We will build a tent prison in the California/Arizona desert and expand it as needed. Once jailed, all assets will be seized and sold at auction. All proceeds will be used to incarcerate said illegal aliens. These stipulations will apply to anyone who entered the country illegally OR any visa overstay of one day or more.

ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN CAUGHT IN THE UNITED STATES AFTER THE AMNESTY PERIOD HAS EXPIRED WILL BE BANNED FROM THE COUNTRY FOR LIFE!

On day 91, ANY employer who hires an illegal alien fugitive will be jailed. One year for the first offense, FIVE years for the second and TEN years for the third. These laws and penalties will also apply to any bank lending money to illegal aliens and anyone giving them aid and shelter, including churches.

American born children of illegal aliens will be placed in jeopardy by the actions of their parents. Since the American people had no hand in those actions, the responsibility for the care of those children will be that of their parents. If they self-deport, they have the option to take the kids with them or leave them here with an adult of their choice. If the parent is incarcerated as an illegal alien fugitive, they have the option of placing the children with an adult of their choice or making them wards of the federal government and placed in an institution until their release.
Great start and excellent follow through.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Jeez Louise!

Why just my desert? Disperse the convicted illegals into camps elsewhere as needed.

Otherwise; I essentially agree with the above proposal.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:21 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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I always knew there was a lot more. That amount is larger than any combined total number of soldiers ever to fight against each other in battle in history.

12 million is not enough to take over California, the southwest, most of hudson county NJ, NYC, and the rest of inner city america.

Jailing them will cost to much money though.
not if terry andersons plan goes according to plan, he wants them to pay for it themselves by seizing and selling their assets....sounds great to me
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:25 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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GOOD THINKING MY FRIEND. I AGREE 100%.
BUT HOW DO WE GET THIS CORRUPT GOVERNMENT OF OURS TO ENFORCE THIS???
WE NOW NEED A PASSPORT TO GO TO MEXICO BUT THE MEXICANS WALK
INTO THIS COUNTRY AND WANT TO RUN THINGS.
GOOD GRIEF--WHAT WAS IT I FOUGHT FOR AGAIN???
if you've never heard it before....THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE....
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I have been pondering the quote that Veiled Prophet posted:

The '38 million illegal immigrants' figure alluded to may refer to the 'anchor babies' as well who, in the eyes of the law, are US citizens.

Splitting the difference between 12 and 20 million bona fide illegals; add in 1-2 kids per illegal, and, presto! there is that '38 million'--------even of one of the parents in some cases is actually here legally.
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