We have been occupied ~ 38 MILLION ILLEGALS HERE NOW (medical, visa, website)

[Veiled Prophet]

We have been occupied and colonized.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/study_says_illegal_alien_popul.php (broken link)

We all know that the 12 million number is bogus. Yup. No surprise here. We've known this all along. Only the sheeple who believe the MSM think it's only 12 million.

I like Terry Anderson's "90 Day Solution Without Confusion":

THE TERRY ANDERSON SHOW 90 DAY SOLUTION WITHOUT CONFUSION

Congress shall declare a 90 day amnesty for ALL illegal aliens. During that period NO status adjustments will be made. Zero! For 90 days illegal aliens will have the opportunity to dispose of any accumulated assets, both real and personal. Bought a house? Sell it! Bought a car? Sell it! Got a dog, give it away! They will have three months to settle their affairs and sever all ties to this country. At the end of the amnesty period, on day 91, ANY illegal alien still here will be considered a federal, felony fugitive and will be arrested and jailed. One year the first time. FIVE years the second time and TEN years the third time. We will build a tent prison in the California/Arizona desert and expand it as needed. Once jailed, all assets will be seized and sold at auction. All proceeds will be used to incarcerate said illegal aliens. These stipulations will apply to anyone who entered the country illegally OR any visa overstay of one day or more.

ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN CAUGHT IN THE UNITED STATES AFTER THE AMNESTY PERIOD HAS EXPIRED WILL BE BANNED FROM THE COUNTRY FOR LIFE!

On day 91, ANY employer who hires an illegal alien fugitive will be jailed. One year for the first offense, FIVE years for the second and TEN years for the third. These laws and penalties will also apply to any bank lending money to illegal aliens and anyone giving them aid and shelter, including churches.

American born children of illegal aliens will be placed in jeopardy by the actions of their parents. Since the American people had no hand in those actions, the responsibility for the care of those children will be that of their parents. If they self-deport, they have the option to take the kids with them or leave them here with an adult of their choice. If the parent is incarcerated as an illegal alien fugitive, they have the option of placing the children with an adult of their choice or making them wards of the federal government and placed in an institution until their release.

[NJ Chutzpah]

I always knew there was a lot more. That amount is larger than any combined total number of soldiers ever to fight against each other in battle in history.

12 million is not enough to take over California, the southwest, most of hudson county NJ, NYC, and the rest of inner city america.

Jailing them will cost to much money though.

[tallrick]

This would never work. Just cut off their welfare and medical benefits. If illegals go for medical treatment send them back. Correctly interperate the Constitution to eliminate 'Anchor babies". Putting illegal aliens in a prison camp will just increase public sympathy for them. Deportation is the proper punishment for entering the country illegally not prison. I would take the stance of holding countries responsible for their citizens. If they can't control them, then maybe they need to be colonized.

[PBCboy]

Originally Posted by tallrick

This would never work. Just cut off their welfare and medical benefits. If illegals go for medical treatment send them back. Correctly interperate the Constitution to eliminate 'Anchor babies". Putting illegal aliens in a prison camp will just increase public sympathy for them. Deportation is the proper punishment for entering the country illegally not prison. I would take the stance of holding countries responsible for their citizens. If they can't control them, then maybe they need to be colonized.

Many of them get deported and then just simply re-enter the country at a later date.

[NJ Chutzpah]

We just need to stop treating them so well. No benefits, no banking, no accounts with utility companies like water, electricity, no schools for there kids, no joining local recreation clubs, no employment.

[Evlevo]

Originally Posted by PBCboy

Many of them get deported and then just simply re-enter the country at a later date.

I don't even know how much of a study it really was, since it sounds like they just applied a formula to an existing apprehension figure...

Walsh said his analysis indicating there are 38 million illegal aliens in the U.S. was calculated using the conservative estimate of three illegal immigrants entering the U.S. for each one apprehended.

What about people who are caught 5 times and make it in on the sixth? That would really be 1 illegal immigrant but according to this report (which I couldn't find on their website) that might count as 15 illegal immigrants!!!

I think the report is a hunk of crap. The posted link attributed it to C.A.P.S., but on their website (in the "facts" section) I found this...
Immigration & Overpopulation Issues - Californians for Population Stabilization CAPS

Illegal Immigration Facts
There are an estimated 12 to 20 million illegal aliens currently residing in our country.

Even the 'source' doesn't seem to think that there are 38 million illegals I guess that makes the 'source' for this thread just another bunch of "Sheeple who believes the MSM"?

See what doing a little bit of homework does? It instantly sent 65% of the illegals away! (You all should be pleased!)

[dblbogie33]

Originally Posted by Veiled Prophet

We have been occupied and colonized.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/study_says_illegal_alien_popul.php (broken link)

We all know that the 12 million number is bogus. Yup. No surprise here. We've known this all along. Only the sheeple who believe the MSM think it's only 12 million.

I like Terry Anderson's "90 Day Solution Without Confusion":

THE TERRY ANDERSON SHOW 90 DAY SOLUTION WITHOUT CONFUSION

Congress shall declare a 90 day amnesty for ALL illegal aliens. During that period NO status adjustments will be made. Zero! For 90 days illegal aliens will have the opportunity to dispose of any accumulated assets, both real and personal. Bought a house? Sell it! Bought a car? Sell it! Got a dog, give it away! They will have three months to settle their affairs and sever all ties to this country. At the end of the amnesty period, on day 91, ANY illegal alien still here will be considered a federal, felony fugitive and will be arrested and jailed. One year the first time. FIVE years the second time and TEN years the third time. We will build a tent prison in the California/Arizona desert and expand it as needed. Once jailed, all assets will be seized and sold at auction. All proceeds will be used to incarcerate said illegal aliens. These stipulations will apply to anyone who entered the country illegally OR any visa overstay of one day or more.

ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN CAUGHT IN THE UNITED STATES AFTER THE AMNESTY PERIOD HAS EXPIRED WILL BE BANNED FROM THE COUNTRY FOR LIFE!

On day 91, ANY employer who hires an illegal alien fugitive will be jailed. One year for the first offense, FIVE years for the second and TEN years for the third. These laws and penalties will also apply to any bank lending money to illegal aliens and anyone giving them aid and shelter, including churches.

American born children of illegal aliens will be placed in jeopardy by the actions of their parents. Since the American people had no hand in those actions, the responsibility for the care of those children will be that of their parents. If they self-deport, they have the option to take the kids with them or leave them here with an adult of their choice. If the parent is incarcerated as an illegal alien fugitive, they have the option of placing the children with an adult of their choice or making them wards of the federal government and placed in an institution until their release.

GOOD THINKING MY FRIEND. I AGREE 100%.
BUT HOW DO WE GET THIS CORRUPT GOVERNMENT OF OURS TO ENFORCE THIS???
WE NOW NEED A PASSPORT TO GO TO MEXICO BUT THE MEXICANS WALK
INTO THIS COUNTRY AND WANT TO RUN THINGS.
GOOD GRIEF--WHAT WAS IT I FOUGHT FOR AGAIN???

[RedNC]

Anyone living in So Cal can verify that the number illegals are at least 12 million is in LA alone.

[ArizonaBear]

That 38 million number sounds way too high..........even 20 million illegal immigrants I doubt.

[Huckleberry3911948]

Originally Posted by Veiled Prophet

We have been occupied and colonized.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/study_says_illegal_alien_popul.php (broken link)

We all know that the 12 million number is bogus. Yup. No surprise here. We've known this all along. Only the sheeple who believe the MSM think it's only 12 million.

I like Terry Anderson's "90 Day Solution Without Confusion":

THE TERRY ANDERSON SHOW 90 DAY SOLUTION WITHOUT CONFUSION

Congress shall declare a 90 day amnesty for ALL illegal aliens. During that period NO status adjustments will be made. Zero! For 90 days illegal aliens will have the opportunity to dispose of any accumulated assets, both real and personal. Bought a house? Sell it! Bought a car? Sell it! Got a dog, give it away! They will have three months to settle their affairs and sever all ties to this country. At the end of the amnesty period, on day 91, ANY illegal alien still here will be considered a federal, felony fugitive and will be arrested and jailed. One year the first time. FIVE years the second time and TEN years the third time. We will build a tent prison in the California/Arizona desert and expand it as needed. Once jailed, all assets will be seized and sold at auction. All proceeds will be used to incarcerate said illegal aliens. These stipulations will apply to anyone who entered the country illegally OR any visa overstay of one day or more.

ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN CAUGHT IN THE UNITED STATES AFTER THE AMNESTY PERIOD HAS EXPIRED WILL BE BANNED FROM THE COUNTRY FOR LIFE!

On day 91, ANY employer who hires an illegal alien fugitive will be jailed. One year for the first offense, FIVE years for the second and TEN years for the third. These laws and penalties will also apply to any bank lending money to illegal aliens and anyone giving them aid and shelter, including churches.

American born children of illegal aliens will be placed in jeopardy by the actions of their parents. Since the American people had no hand in those actions, the responsibility for the care of those children will be that of their parents. If they self-deport, they have the option to take the kids with them or leave them here with an adult of their choice. If the parent is incarcerated as an illegal alien fugitive, they have the option of placing the children with an adult of their choice or making them wards of the federal government and placed in an institution until their release.

yes dear friend but connect the dots.
demographics of urban ghettos have changed forever. now you got people in them who will, for the most part, work.
a big big change.
the country is changing probably for the better.
130000 of new orleans not so finest moved out permanently.
lots of change goin on. dont worry the powers that be will turn off the faucet its about timing isn't it?
stephen s
san diego ca