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Old 10-12-2007, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Jobs we won't do? I've done everything from whipe arses to harvest cranberries, blueberries and potatos. I've washed dishes, waitressed, babysat, and delivered meals on wheels. It's bullcrap,.. but just keep running the wages down by hiring someone afraid to complain.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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Jobs we won't do? I've done everything from whipe arses to harvest cranberries, blueberries and potatos. I've washed dishes, waitressed, babysat, and delivered meals on wheels. It's bullcrap,.. but just keep running the wages down by hiring someone afraid to complain.
Confess, you're really an illegal
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Jobs we won't do? I've done everything from whipe arses to harvest cranberries, blueberries and potatos. I've washed dishes, waitressed, babysat, and delivered meals on wheels. It's bullcrap,.. but just keep running the wages down by hiring someone afraid to complain.
So true......I agree 100% with your post.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:35 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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I understand your concerns; note that here in Arizona the frustration is rising about the illegal immigrant problem and I hope that Congress does something--------soon.
Our federal government, including Congress, is not going to do anything unless legal American citizens start putting alot pressure on elected officials. If we had a strong federal government in the first place we would not be in this mess and the states and cities across our country who are trying to do something would not be placed in positions that they are not responsible for.
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:42 AM
 
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Jobs we won't do? I've done everything from whipe arses to harvest cranberries, blueberries and potatos. I've washed dishes, waitressed, babysat, and delivered meals on wheels. It's bullcrap,.. but just keep running the wages down by hiring someone afraid to complain.

Shame on you ! You're the one giving Americans a bad name....working with your hands, you know Americans don't do that.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Shame on you ! You're the one giving Americans a bad name....working with your hands, you know Americans don't do that.
Speak for yourself: I do not work with my hands-------I use wrenches!
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:31 AM
 
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I agree with many postings here...If the wages were right, many people would do the jobs...The illegals simply drove down wages, mostly hurting the African American Community (as they have the highest un-employment). Let's face it, if these jobs paid livable and decent wages, where people could support their families, they would do the work.

And, it always makes me laugh to think that people that pay about $500 per month to gas their their totally un-needed, big-butt SUVs want to pay $200 per month to have their landscaping done(???)...They value their SUVs more than their own homes...Where the hell are their values???...Their SUVs are simply stupid status symbols...

I remember one day while I was driving in a ritzy town, a woman was pulling out of a parking space right into my path...I slammed on my brakes, without touching her big-butt, SUV, that was outfitted for off-road, sports use anyway (You know, to take a beating off-road)...She jumped out of the truck with a look on her face like someone just molested her new-born child!!!...I had to laugh!!!...She needed this truck like she needed a lawn mower to trim her pedicured nails!

And again, this shows the wrong-headed values that people place on things...Like the value of paying someone to paint your house, mow your lawn, or take care of your children...Too many people want to get these services for as cheap as possible, while they'll pay exorbirant prices for "status symbols", like SUVs, designer clothing, and other overpriced nonsense.

Everyone has a right to do what they want with their money...But, let's face it, too often people have no respect for the value of other people....And, that's what it comes down to...

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Old 10-13-2007, 09:58 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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So maybe we shut down the DEA and shift the federal resources to ICE, build the fence and unleash the feds on business that hire illegals.

jurisdiction problems solved
Why do you insist we have to perpetually waste money on public policy that has never worked, in the history of the US?

Why not implement a permanent and market friendly solution to migrant labor market participation? A market friendly work visa program could solve the problem of illegal migrant labor market participation, and reduce public and private sector costs in the process.
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:01 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Our federal government, including Congress, is not going to do anything unless legal American citizens start putting alot pressure on elected officials. If we had a strong federal government in the first place we would not be in this mess and the states and cities across our country who are trying to do something would not be placed in positions that they are not responsible for.
The same could be said of better and more market friendly public policy; without the cost burden of enforcement practices that have less to do with individual liberty, and more to do with forms of communism.
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:09 AM
 
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And again, this shows the wrong-headed values that people place on things...Like the value of paying someone to paint your house, mow your lawn, or take care of your children...Too many people want to get these services for as cheap as possible, while they'll pay exorbirant prices for "status symbols", like SUVs, designer clothing, and other overpriced nonsense.

Everyone has a right to do what they want with their money...But, let's face it, too often people have no respect for the value of other people....And, that's what it comes down to...
Much as I have argued on BOTH sides of this very contentious issue, I have to admit that I live in Southern California. Within a very short distance of my home (which is itself, quite unusual--the final remnants of a once-huge Spanish land grant) are huge low-income barrios, very close to the most ostentatious planned communities. And your post is quite correct. It is quite possible for "normal" healthy people to paint their OWN homes---to clip their OWN landscaping---and even to wash their OWN cars (gasp)!...

But in the surreal world created here in the past two or three decades, these jobs have become customary for "normal" people to "hire out". Some very ordinary folks even have a weekly housekeeper/maid service.

The reasons for this could fill several books, but for starters, I'd suggest:

(1) The nearness and poverty of Mexico, providing a "hungry", willing and adaptable (and exploitable) workforce...

(2) The unwillingness or inability of the American parent to get his OWN kid (or HIMSELF) outside to do "gardening" chores...

(3) The huge number of planned communities which discourage any sort of "do-it-yourself" projects in any outdoor location....

(4) Two wage-earner families in which time off is considered too rare and precious to "waste" on household duties or tedious jobs....

(5) A comptetiveness built in to the American culture which convinces us we NEED to have "servants", mainly because our NEIGHBORS do....

We could probably all expand on this list indefinitely. Some illegals do, of course, "take away jobs Americans could do"...but others, it must be admitted, fill jobs which they themselves have created, in the wide-open market that comes from our modern "yuppie" lifestyle. And many of us are glad to have them, as we loudly grumble about their presence....
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