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Old 10-08-2007, 06:40 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Imagine living next door and not being able to afford the visa or having to wait longer than 5 months or 3 years.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Cant imagine the cost or the why . As for the wait no clue. My wife had no such problems.
The real issue is however that the fact there is a wait, or a cost, is irrelevent. Immigration into any country will always be on that country's terms. When you decide to immigrate you also choose to accept those terms. Don't cry foul because it has been a burden to you. You made the choice.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:45 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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I think it is due more, to inefficient public policy. Consider a hypothetical work visa that has no waiting period. Anyone would be able to apply for one, and hypothetically obtain the visa in under a week. Such a hypothetical work visa could also have provisions for forms of insurance that could reduce public and private sector costs.

Anyone obtaining a hypothetical work visa, would not be prohibited from normal residency visa applications, if they choose.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I think it is due more, to inefficient public policy. Consider a hypothetical work visa that has no waiting period. Anyone would be able to apply for one, and hypothetically obtain the visa in under a week. Such a hypothetical work visa could also have provisions for forms of insurance that could reduce public and private sector costs.

Anyone obtaining a hypothetical work visa, would not be prohibited from normal residency visa applications, if they choose.
Impossible. You need to have a background check completed and a physical/blood work. These things protect us from mistakes.
Besides as the saying goes Anything worth having is worth waiting for..
Our country need not bend low for immigrants, it is they who need to bend low for the priveledge of coming here.
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:39 PM
 
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Cant imagine the cost or the why . As for the wait no clue. My wife had no such problems.
The real issue is however that the fact there is a wait, or a cost, is irrelevent. Immigration into any country will always be on that country's terms. When you decide to immigrate you also choose to accept those terms. Don't cry foul because it has been a burden to you. You made the choice.
Crying foul is working for them...Americans need to cry foul to the government for going along with this. Buy it looks like the new "health care plans" that are being talked about from most candidates is just another freebee that illegals can take advantage of.
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:43 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Impossible. You need to have a background check completed and a physical/blood work. These things protect us from mistakes.
Besides as the saying goes Anything worth having is worth waiting for..
Our country need not bend low for immigrants, it is they who need to bend low for the priveledge of coming here.
How difficult is it for simple biometrics collection (e.g. finger prints or retina prints), for a work visa?

All of the other requirements could be met for a (immigrant) residency visa.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:17 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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Cant imagine the cost or the why . As for the wait no clue. My wife had no such problems.
The real issue is however that the fact there is a wait, or a cost, is irrelevent. Immigration into any country will always be on that country's terms. When you decide to immigrate you also choose to accept those terms. Don't cry foul because it has been a burden to you. You made the choice.

bravo. take a bow....agreed 100%
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Old 10-09-2007, 09:13 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Crying foul is working for them...Americans need to cry foul to the government for going along with this. Buy it looks like the new "health care plans" that are being talked about from most candidates is just another freebee that illegals can take advantage of.
There wouldn't be any illegals with a market friendly work visa program because they would all be fined and issued a work visa.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Pa
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There wouldn't be any illegals with a market friendly work visa program because they would all be fined and issued a work visa.
You miss the point.... Its our nations right to impose what ever wait, charge whatever fees and decline whomever we feel undeserving.
When someone chooses to come here then it is they who must adapt and accept... We should not feel compelled to change our laws because some immigrants don't like them.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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There is no illegal immigrants where I live and magically every job gets done. How does that happen?
Where the heck do you live? On the moon? I didn't think there was any area left in America that the illegals haven't invaded.
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