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Old 10-03-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Yes. Observe the same hypocritical contradictions in the other thread going simultaneously to this one -- about opposition to tax breaks for the film industry ... same crew that cries out for strong business posturing for California, to save jobs and revenue, up in arms about doing what it takes in reality to save keystone California industries.

Looks like you and I will ride the ranges and sail the harbors with little company crowding around after all, eh?
Ah do encourage ya'll to depart this fine state.

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Holding hands and singing Kumbayah, no doubt.
Curmie, we sang Kumbayah around the campfire back in Boy Scouts. Are you implying Boy Scouts are gay?
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Americans who are unable to drive for whatever reason get around quite nicely with public transportation.
Eh? Now, my aged mama who longer drives, and to take public transportation means walking with her walker out her 600 foot long driveway, crossing a 45 mph (only a suggestion based on the rockets passing by) road, with no crosswalk. And walking down the shoulder of the road a quarter mile to the bus stop. A frightening concept.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Eh? Now, my aged mama who longer drives, and to take public transportation means walking with her walker out her 600 foot long driveway, crossing a 45 mph (only a suggestion based on the rockets passing by) road, with no crosswalk. And walking down the shoulder of the road a quarter mile to the bus stop. A frightening concept.
Now come on, I know you Mom is not an illegal
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:58 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Curmie, we sang Kumbayah around the campfire back in Boy Scouts. Are you implying Boy Scouts are gay?
We didn't back in the 50s.

Nice try, no cigar. You're not clever enough by half.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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They have been made legal.

They have been made able to legally work.

Such people are allowed to drive.

Argue with the feds. But they are now legal residents...and therefore should be able to drive.

To refuse to allow those legally here and legally working here to drive is stupid.
No, they have NOT "been made legal." They remain illegal aliens. Only now, they’ve been granted deferred action for deportation purposes, and some will be authorized to work. Actually, according to DACA, they are only eligible to get a work permit if they can prove they MUST work. After all, we have 23 million unemployed citizens.

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Deferred action is a discretionary determination to defer removal action of an individual as an act of prosecutorial discretion. Under this process, USCIS will consider requests on a case-by-case basis. While this process does not provide lawful status or a pathway to permanent residence or citizenship, individuals whose cases are deferred will not be removed from the United States for a two year period, subject to renewal, and may also receive employment authorization.
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals: Who Can Be Considered? | The White House
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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[quote=.highnlite;26361213]Ah do encourage ya'll to depart this fine state.


By, ya'll I did not mean you Null, sorry if there was confusion, it was directed at all the doom and gloom sky is falling folk.
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Now come on, I know you Mom is not an illegal
She is from another country though, The Old South

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We didn't back in the 50s.

Nice try, no cigar. You're not clever enough by half.
I can picture you as a Scoutmaster. "Hey boys! Who wants a Merit Badge!"
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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We didn't back in the 50s.

Nice try, no cigar. You're not clever enough by half.
He wasnt around in the 1850's
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:07 PM
 
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No, they have NOT "been made legal." They remain illegal aliens. Only now, they’ve been granted deferred action for deportation purposes, and some will be authorized to work. Actually, according to DACA, they are only eligible to get a work permit if they can prove they MUST work. After all, we have 23 million unemployed citizens.


Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals: Who Can Be Considered? | The White House
Nope. They are not "illegal". They are not "lawful" either as the law makes no provision to grant them permanent status. But they are legal. And they can get work permits. That is a fully legal status.

Very similar to those who fled persecution or the Haitians escaping the disaster there. Not lawful but legal. And generally with a time frame when they are supposed to leave..

Practically if they stay and can work or go to school they need a drivers license.
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nope. They are not "illegal". They are not "lawful" either as the law makes no provision to grant them permanent status. But they are legal. And they can get work permits. That is a fully legal status.

Very similar to those who fled persecution or the Haitians escaping the disaster there. Not lawful but legal. And generally with a time frame when they are supposed to leave..

Practically if they stay and can work or go to school they need a drivers license.
Right. And in 2 years they will turn in their work permits/DL/SS cards and go back to being illegal aliens living in the US ?
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