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Old 03-27-2010, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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wonder why the OP never returned and answered post #286

 
Old 03-28-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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illegals arn't covered under Obamaplan. However, next month , when he legalizes 1 billion illegals here, THEY WILL BE COVERED AND WE WORKERS WILL BE PAYING OUT OF OUR PAYCHECKS EVERY WEEK FOR THESE FRIENDS OF OBAMAS,
 
Old 03-28-2010, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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illegals arn't covered under Obamaplan. However, next month , when he legalizes 1 billion illegals here, THEY WILL BE COVERED AND WE WORKERS WILL BE PAYING OUT OF OUR PAYCHECKS EVERY WEEK FOR THESE FRIENDS OF OBAMAS,
Talk about hyperbole here:

First off: we have ca. 10-12 million illegal aliens here (which is still way too many) and second; proof please that Obama will amnesty those losers in April 2010
 
Old 03-28-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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If I was the SSA before assigning a number I would check databases to see if anyone opened any loans or other records on that particular number - obviously anything turning up would be fake usage.
Unfortunately, if the SSA had to verify every new number they issue to ensure illegals had not created the identical number, it would take forever to assign a new number. The day after my son was born in 1992, a nurse brought me the paperwork to complete for his SSN. As I recall, within a week after being released from the hospital, I received his card. I understand what you’re saying, but it simply isn’t feasible.
 
Old 03-29-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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Old 04-03-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Hades
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And legal immigrants are not the problem. As for your crack about 'average' Americans being lazy; well, since quite a few are unemployed these days and cannot get benefits, maybe they will be willing to work----------if paid legal wages, etc.
Hey look, I agree with you. But why are so many jobs turned over to illegal immigrants. Because they're willing to do the work for lesser pay and there's also the element of them being "more hardworking." A lot of Americans DO feel entitled. And for many, this entitlement creeps into the work place and affects productivity. I don't want the image of the average American being lazy to persist, but unfortunately, it does.
 
Old 04-03-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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I have a question for you. I know more than a dozen illegals.
What is your take on these two scenarios.

1.Came here on I-94's and never left. One family, husband, wife, three kids. Husband does not work. Wife works under the table. Two kids in high school, third one born here, free of charge to them, picked up by the hospital and ultimately legitimate taxpayers.
They live with another family, therefore, two in school, not paying any withholding, free birth, and have never filed income taxes, and pay no property taxes.. They have been here for 6 years.


2. Another family. Husband, wife, one child in school. They came here 9 years ago on I-94's and never left. They work from home doing contract work, no withholding using a Mexico address, and paid directly to their US bank account, and subsequently no 1099's issued. Income is approx. $90,000 a year and have never filed income taxes. Pay no property tax and one child in grade school.

Is this a reasonable thing for them to do?
You would have a point if the OP was talking about ILLEGAL activity. However if you actually paid a little more attention to detail, you would realize the OP was talking about LEGAL and HONEST immigrants who pay taxes and contribute to society. There are countless examples of physicians and engineers from Asian countries who emigrate here LEGALLY, pay taxes and raise responsible children who excel in school and become positive members of society. Why is it that those families are lumped in among the immigrants who perform illegal activities like the ones you mentioned. That is what the OP was asking so how about you actually pay a little more attention next time and answer the question assuming of course your reading comprehension skills are adequate.
 
Old 04-03-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Hey look, I agree with you. But why are so many jobs turned over to illegal immigrants. Because they're willing to do the work for lesser pay and there's also the element of them being "more hardworking." A lot of Americans DO feel entitled. And for many, this entitlement creeps into the work place and affects productivity. I don't want the image of the average American being lazy to persist, but unfortunately, it does.
Then care to explain why wages in many non union trades have fallen since the influx of illegal aliens? Remember one gets what they pay for and I can safely say that most illegals are not exactly the cream of the crop where competence is concerned.
 
Old 04-03-2010, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You would have a point if the OP was talking about ILLEGAL activity. However if you actually paid a little more attention to detail, you would realize the OP was talking about LEGAL and HONEST immigrants who pay taxes and contribute to society. There are countless examples of physicians and engineers from Asian countries who emigrate here LEGALLY, pay taxes and raise responsible children who excel in school and become positive members of society. Why is it that those families are lumped in among the immigrants who perform illegal activities like the ones you mentioned. That is what the OP was asking so how about you actually pay a little more attention next time and answer the question assuming of course your reading comprehension skills are adequate.
thanks for pointing that out, we sure wouldn't want to talk about the other side would we, how convenient
 
Old 04-03-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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To the people who believe that immigrants are ruining America,( by not paying taxes, taking jobs from Americans, going to the hospital because they are sick, or just trying to find a better life, etc). - How about the ones trying to make a difference in their country, or paying taxes, or helping the American people? Well, how come not many see the difference in this, and just lump us all together in one category? Those of you who are against immigrants should realize that we are not all the same, but a group of people with different perspectives. By the way, just because we are immigrants does not mean out life goal is to become your nanny or gardener.
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You would have a point if the OP was talking about ILLEGAL activity. However if you actually paid a little more attention to detail, you would realize the OP was talking about LEGAL and HONEST immigrants who pay taxes and contribute to society. There are countless examples of physicians and engineers from Asian countries who emigrate here LEGALLY, pay taxes and raise responsible children who excel in school and become positive members of society. Why is it that those families are lumped in among the immigrants who perform illegal activities like the ones you mentioned. That is what the OP was asking so how about you actually pay a little more attention next time and answer the question assuming of course your reading comprehension skills are adequate.
Looking at what I bolded: that is a disreputable tactic by many pro illegal alien apologists------------lumping legal immigrants together with illegal aliens and referring to the whole group as simply 'immigrants'

Needless to say: most pro illegal types will never admit to being that way because they are cowards.
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