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Old 10-03-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Lets hope its true.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:50 PM
 
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Moot point...he won't win.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:56 AM
 
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Actually, I think Obama has done those who qualify for DACA a disservice. Someday we're going to have a president that won't extend deferred action, and the longer those people are here, the harder it will be for them to leave. It may be that Obama doesn't plan to extend it beyond the 2 years, since he won't need the votes. It strikes me as funny he set it up for such a short time. If he was really concerned about them, you'd think he would have set it up for a longer period. It will be interesting to see what hapens after this first 2 years.
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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Actually, I think Obama has done those who qualify for DACA a disservice. Someday we're going to have a president that won't extend deferred action, and the longer those people are here, the harder it will be for them to leave. It may be that Obama doesn't plan to extend it beyond the 2 years, since he won't need the votes. It strikes me as funny he set it up for such a short time. If he was really concerned about them, you'd think he would have set it up for a longer period. It will be interesting to see what hapens after this first 2 years.
Well -- the real goal for the open border elites is to have cheap labor, unlimited supplies of it. It would be bad to make the DACAs legal because they would then have to be paid legal wages, they would have to pay for their Obama care also.

I think the DACA was carefully thought out - the visas that keep them illegal keep them free from having to pay for their insurance for one - by needing less money, they can accept those lower wage jobs. But also Obama did this by edict, he went around the laws of the USA to push this through, giving them quick citizenship like they want would have required more effort.

This keeps the illegals here and entices many more to come - that is the real goal, and that goal is for those who want the cheap labor. The other goal of course was the votes and Obama has certainly won the hearts of the "hispanics" who want unlimited immigration for their people and jobs in this country.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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Moot point...he won't win.
Uh; it's too close between Obama and Romney to call.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:06 AM
 
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I'm sure Romney doesn't want ot alienate the Hispanic community, but did he mean they should expect it to remain valid for the two years only? In other words, he won't try to end it? He didn't come right out and say he would renew it. Actually, it's time Congress stepped in and told Obama he has nio authority to change immigration law. Of course none of them want to alienate Hispanics either.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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I'm sure Romney doesn't want ot alienate the Hispanic community, but did he mean they should expect it to remain valid for the two years only? In other words, he won't try to end it? He didn't come right out and say he would renew it. Actually, it's time Congress stepped in and told Obama he has nio authority to change immigration law. Of course none of them want to alienate Hispanics either.
I don't quite understand how this alienates Hispanic citizens. I know there are other ethnic groups here illegally but you don't see their citizen counterparts expecting our immigration laws to be changed for their group here illegally or demanding amnesty for them. Shouldn't we all be united as citizens of this country for the rule of law?
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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Uh; it's too close between Obama and Romney to call.
The incumbent almost always wins, and Obama is leading Romney in key battleground states. Personally I think Romney will lose, and I would bet my entire paycheck on it.

Even if Romney wins (which he won't), he won't do anything about illegal immigration either. He'll just kick the can down the road like every president since Eisenhower.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:33 AM
 
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I don't quite understand how this alienates Hispanic citizens. I know there are other ethnic groups here illegally but you don't see their citizen counterparts expecting our immigration laws to be changed for their group here illegally or demanding amnesty for them. Shouldn't we all be united as citizens of this country for the rule of law?

What I meant is Romney may not want to alienate Hispanics by making a firm commitment to end deferred action. Of course he may not intend to end it, but he left it kind of an open question as to exactly what his intentions are.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:40 AM
 
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Well -- the real goal for the open border elites is to have cheap labor, unlimited supplies of it. It would be bad to make the DACAs legal because they would then have to be paid legal wages, they would have to pay for their Obama care also.

I think the DACA was carefully thought out - the visas that keep them illegal keep them free from having to pay for their insurance for one - by needing less money, they can accept those lower wage jobs. But also Obama did this by edict, he went around the laws of the USA to push this through, giving them quick citizenship like they want would have required more effort.

This keeps the illegals here and entices many more to come - that is the real goal, and that goal is for those who want the cheap labor. The other goal of course was the votes and Obama has certainly won the hearts of the "hispanics" who want unlimited immigration for their people and jobs in this country.

They may have to rethink cheap labor. Those who attend college are going to expect top pay once they're legal. They're not going to settle for minimum wages, and no benefits.
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