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Old 10-24-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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And since when is education a bad thing?
It isn't but it shouldn't be our responsibility/tax burden to educate kids in our country illegally. The ones who are anchors due to their parents breaking our immigration laws and giving birth on our soil are also another reason that the Hispanic population is increasing and having a negative impact on our schools.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:10 PM
 
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When their Parents (majority of)don't pay for it and others have to.

Truer words . . . .+1
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So in that case all education is bad, since it is true, we the taxpayers pay for public education that the majority of children use.

You would rather there be no publicly funded education and the U.S. would sink in education attainment to maybe the level of Haiti?

The U.S. already ranks 25th in student Math skills out of 31 countries. You want it to go lower?
I can do that too, you keep allowing in illegals and we will hit the bottom.
Straw man argument. I have no problem paying for legal immigrants and the children of US Citizens. If you don't live near the border, have kids in public school then you have zero idea what is happening in our public schools. Don't worry, it's been spreading and you'll eventually get to enjoy it too in one way or another. Uninsured motorists, ridiculous lines at the ER, etc but the biggest one will be in the schools.

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Old 10-24-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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Not educating those kids is a bad idea, they will turn to gang members

One solution is to have them sweep the school floors after school so they can pay their share.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Not educating those kids is a bad idea, they will turn to gang members

One solution is to have them sweep the school floors after school so they can pay their share.
How about we keep them out of the Country to begin with. That way we avoid the DREAM act and anchor issue altogether. Are Mexico and Guatemala THAT bad? Is it that big a death sentence. Are all Mexicans and Guatemalans bad people and illiterate?

I think not.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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Not educating those kids is a bad idea, they will turn to gang members

One solution is to have them sweep the school floors after school so they can pay their share.
A good many of them just drop out of school and become gang members anyway. The solution is to send those here illegally home along with their kids here illegally and their U.S. born children if they are minors.

I know the topic is education but that isn't the only area where they are a burden to our country.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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A good many of them just drop out of school and become gang members anyway. The solution is to send those here illegally home along with their kids here illegally and their U.S. born children if they are minors.

I know the topic is education but that isn't the only area where they are a burden to our country.
I looked for something saying "illegal aliens" in the article, and didn't find it...

We already discussed that Hispanic growth is not primarily driven by illegal immigrants and their children...
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:37 PM
 
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I looked for something saying "illegal aliens" in the article, and didn't find it...

We already discussed that Hispanic growth is not primarily driven by illegal immigrants and their children...
Hispanic growth over the years has been driven a lot by illegal immigation. Go ahead and remain in denial if you wish.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:03 PM
 
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I looked for something saying "illegal aliens" in the article, and didn't find it...

We already discussed that Hispanic growth is not primarily driven by illegal immigrants and their children...
This is where you are wrong. The whole term "hispanic" is bizarre because it includes long-time patriotic good Americans with those who just came over the border.

If you were to break the group into more natural subgroups -- long-time Americans, with family roots before the 1950's, I'm pretty sure there would be no difference between them and other Americans - no extra costs to educate their kids, no cultural difficulties.

The next group would be more recent arrivals, from 1950s to mid 1980s and you would begin to see problems. And the very recent arrivals who arrived since the mid 1980s could be broken down into 3 groups - legally immigrated on work visas, legally immigrated through family chain migration, and the illegals. Each subgroup would certainly show differences in ability.

Mexico has a public school system - and it's doubtful the USA will have any more luck with the chronic underclass of that country than Mexico had with them but a whole lot more costs.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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One solution is to allow the men to come and go back across the border so they leave their families back home.

The women would be less likely to make the trip. Kids stay in Mexico. Win / win. We get cheap labor. They make a buck.

Oh, and end the birthright citizenship nonsense.

And dungeons. We need a few dungeons.
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