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Old 10-26-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Define whom is encompassed by your "family reunification immigrants" category, and the different criteria from other immigrant categories that lead to your beliefs that they will become burdens to the United States and live in poverty...
Following are a boatload of benefits all "immigrants" receive regardless of immigration status.

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The law includes important exceptions for certain types of services. Regardless of their status, “not qualified” immigrants remained eligible for emergency Medicaid [13] if they are otherwise eligible for their state’s Medicaid program.[14] The law does not restrict access to public health programs providing immunizations and/or treatment of communicable disease symptoms (whether or not those symptoms are caused by such a disease). School breakfast and lunch programs remain open to all children regardless of immigration status, and every state has opted to provide access to the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC). [15] Short-term noncash emergency disaster assistance remains available without regard to immigration status. The attorney general’s list includes child and adult protective services; programs addressing weather emergencies and homelessness; shelters, soup kitchens, and meals-on-wheels; medical, public health, and mental health services necessary to protect life or safety; disability or substance abuse services necessary to protect life or safety; and programs to protect the life or safety of workers, children and youths, or community residents.[16]
http://www.nilc.org/overview-immeligfedprograms.html

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Over a dozen states provide prenatal care to women regardless of status with federal funds, under the CHIP program’s “fetus” option.[25] A few other states provide prenatal care to women regardless of status, with state funds.
Even more tax-funded benefits if "lawfully present" despite the so-called five-year restriction.

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Approximately half of the states have been using state funds to provide TANF, Medicaid, and/or CHIP to some or all of the immigrants who are subject to the five-year bar on federally funded services, or to a broader group of immigrants.
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In February 2009, when Congress reauthorized the CHIP program, states were granted an option to provide federally funded Medicaid and CHIP to “lawfully residing” children and pregnant women, regardless of their date of entry into the United States.[24] Almost half of the states have opted to take advantage of this federal funding for immigrant health coverage, which became available on April 1, 2009.
Yes, many legal immigrants and most illegal aliens are indeed an unnecessary tax burden. This doesn't even include those receiving SSI without having paid one dime in taxes.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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Define whom is encompassed by your "family reunification immigrants" category, and the different criteria from other immigrant categories that lead to your beliefs that they will become burdens to the United States and live in poverty...
Of course they will become burdens. These people cannot support their larger than normal family sizes back in their own countries where the cost of living is much lower and where they can understand the language and culture.

People with no more than a 3rd grade education, unable to understand the language and able to take the lowest paying jobs can not afford the high cost of living in this country. They cannot afford $800 or more in health insurance premiums, so they count on getting Medicaid. They cannot afford the high cost of food in this country.

Without all the government handouts -- especially food stamps, housing assistance, and Medicaid, there is no way so many unskilled and uneducated are pouring over the border. Like it or not they cannot afford life here with their willingness to take those very low paying jobs.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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Following are a boatload of benefits all "immigrants" receive regardless of immigration status.


Overview of Immigrant Eligibility for Federal Programs - National Immigration Law Center



Even more tax-funded benefits if "lawfully present" despite the so-called five-year restriction.





Yes, many legal immigrants and most illegal aliens are indeed an unnecessary tax burden. This doesn't even include those receiving SSI without having paid one dime in taxes.

Yet, when discussing budget cuts, neither candidate has addressed the billions of dollars of debt that could be eliminated by enforcing our immigration laws.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I said some or possibly many. Are citizen sponsors mandated to provide their family member with health insurance? Are the citizens who sponsored a family member monitored for providing basic living expenses for them or they being self sufficient or do some or many end up on the public dole?

At any rate this is getting spun off into a discussion about legal immigrants and that wasn't my intent.
I was asking how you define "family reunification immigrants" separately from others. Are they more likely to become a public charge or live in poverty? Here is your original comment:

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I am speaking of the family reunification immigrants. Some or many may becoming burdens to our country and living in poverty.
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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I was asking how you define "family reunification immigrants" separately from others. Are they more likely to become a public charge or live in poverty? Here is your original comment:
There is more than one definition for family reunification immigrants? I answered your question already, go back and read it again. Besides when you start answering the many questions I have posed to you I will feel obligated to answer yours also. Sounds fair to me.
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