U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 11-10-2012, 06:48 AM
 
36,352 posts, read 16,228,192 times
Reputation: 9764

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
Oh I wouldn't want to make you laugh. Old folks can have a problem controlling their bladders when they laugh.



Ken
I guess you're the only one in this country that seems to know/think that hardly any women, minorities or young Americans vote Republican because I have never heard that before. Could you provide some viable stats to back up your claims? I am sure we can provide you stats to the contrary with this last election.

 
Old 11-10-2012, 06:55 AM
 
36,352 posts, read 16,228,192 times
Reputation: 9764
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
It had EVERYTHING to do with RACISM.

The Germans attacked numerous US ships without warning prior to the outbreak of war (as early as 1940).

Ken
Whether there is any truth to that is irrelevant to today anyway. So why bring up something from over 70 years ago? Not saying that racism isn't still around but racism exists among all races/ethnic groups. We allow in 1 million immigrants a year and Latinos and Asians hold the highest quotas for that so what is your point? Where is the racism there?
 
Old 11-10-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
19,868 posts, read 22,731,855 times
Reputation: 7167
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Whether there is any truth to that is irrelevant to today anyway. So why bring up something from over 70 years ago? Not saying that racism isn't still around but racism exists among all races/ethnic groups. We allow in 1 million immigrants a year and Latinos and Asians hold the highest quotas for that so what is your point? Where is the racism there?
It wasn't ME that brought it up. That was that neo-NAZI guy "Jesus Christ Superstar":

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus Christ Superstar View Post
What happened to the Japanese in the states needed to be done for national security purposes. It was the patriotic thing to do.
The fact is, German U-boat attacks killed Americans well before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and we were at war with the Germans and the Italians as well as the Japanese, but ONLY Japanese-Americans were rounded up and imprisoned. Why is that? Why was it only the guys who didn't look like us?
Hmmmmmm.......
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.


Regarding the "Whether there is any truth to that..." - absolutely there there is truth to it. Clearly you don't know much about history. There were several U-Boat attacks on US ships prior to the Pearl Harbor attack. Here are a couple of the better-known ones:

The US freighter "Steel Seafarer" was sunk by a German U-Boat in September of 1941 - as was the US freighter "Montana"

The Destroyer USS Ruben James was sunk by the German U-Boat U-552 in October of 1941 killing 115 of the crew of 160

So, yeah it DID happen.

Ken
 
Old 11-10-2012, 07:49 AM
 
47,576 posts, read 60,490,480 times
Reputation: 22275
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
It wasn't ME that brought it up. That was that neo-NAZI guy "Jesus Christ Superstar":



The fact is, German U-boat attacks killed Americans well before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and we were at war with the Germans and the Italians as well as the Japanese, but ONLY Japanese-Americans were rounded up and imprisoned. Why is that? Why was it only the guys who didn't look like us?
Hmmmmmm.......
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.


Regarding the "Whether there is any truth to that..." - absolutely there there is truth to it. Clearly you don't know much about history. There were several U-Boat attacks on US ships prior to the Pearl Harbor attack. Here are a couple of the better-known ones:

The US freighter "Steel Seafarer" was sunk by a German U-Boat in September of 1941 - as was the US freighter "Montana"

The Destroyer USS Ruben James was sunk by the German U-Boat U-552 in October of 1941 killing 115 of the crew of 160

So, yeah it DID happen.

Ken
Actually that's a lie. German immigrants were also interned -- but the politically correct never like to mention that.

You need to read more.

WWII Violations of German American Civil Liberties by the US Government

German Americans are the largest ethnic group in the US. Approximately 60 million Americans claim German ancestry. German American loyalty to America's promise of freedom traces back to the Revolutionary War. Nevertheless, during World War II, the US government and many Americans viewed German Americans and others of "enemy ancestry" as potentially dangerous, particularly recent immigrants.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 07:54 AM
 
156 posts, read 115,890 times
Reputation: 128
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
Actually that's a lie. German immigrants were also interned -- but the politically correct never like to mention that.

You need to read more.

WWII Violations of German American Civil Liberties by the US Government

German Americans are the largest ethnic group in the US. Approximately 60 million Americans claim German ancestry. German American loyalty to America's promise of freedom traces back to the Revolutionary War. Nevertheless, during World War II, the US government and many Americans viewed German Americans and others of "enemy ancestry" as potentially dangerous, particularly recent immigrants.
Here's another regarding Italian internment during WW2:

Italian Internment WWII

Not that it has anything to do with illegal immigration, but since the topic is being used as a back-handed way to suggest that opposition to illegal immigration is based upon racism yet again.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 07:58 AM
 
47,576 posts, read 60,490,480 times
Reputation: 22275
Quote:
Originally Posted by majesticat View Post
Here's another regarding Italian internment during WW2:

Italian Internment WWII

Not that it has anything to do with illegal immigration, but since the topic is being used as a back-handed way to suggest that opposition to illegal immigration is based upon racism yet again.
I suspect that those doing that have very little familiarity with the USA or it's history. If your family arrived here illegally ten years ago and you never felt any need to study and learn about the USA, you're not going to know these facts. You just learn whatever they taught you in Aztlan studies.
 
Old 11-10-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
19,868 posts, read 22,731,855 times
Reputation: 7167
Quote:
Originally Posted by malamute View Post
Actually that's a lie. German immigrants were also interned -- but the politically correct never like to mention that.

You need to read more.

WWII Violations of German American Civil Liberties by the US Government

German Americans are the largest ethnic group in the US. Approximately 60 million Americans claim German ancestry. German American loyalty to America's promise of freedom traces back to the Revolutionary War. Nevertheless, during World War II, the US government and many Americans viewed German Americans and others of "enemy ancestry" as potentially dangerous, particularly recent immigrants.
German IMMIGRANTS - Not AMERICAN CITIZENS of German ancestry - BIG DIFFERENCE.

In the case of the Japanese-AMERICANS it didn't matter HOW LONG your family had been here, it didn't matter if you were an AMERICAN CITIZEN or not, it didn't matter if both you AND your parents were born here. If you were of Japanese-ancestry you were rounded up.

It's one thing to round up people who are FOREIGNERS, it's something else entirely to round up AMERICANS.

These were AMERICANS - you got it?
NOT IMMIGRANTS, NOT FOREIGNERS.
AMERICANS!!!!!!



Ken

PS - It should also be noted that even though Italian and Germans immigrants were rounded up - it wasn't even ALL of them - just selected cases that for one reason or another were considered security risks. For the Japanese-Americans, they rounded them ALL up - even (as mentioned) those who's families had been here for GENERATIONS.

Last edited by LordBalfor; 11-10-2012 at 08:32 AM..
 
Old 11-10-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
19,868 posts, read 22,731,855 times
Reputation: 7167
Quote:
Originally Posted by majesticat View Post
Here's another regarding Italian internment during WW2:

Italian Internment WWII

Not that it has anything to do with illegal immigration, but since the topic is being used as a back-handed way to suggest that opposition to illegal immigration is based upon racism yet again.
Same as my post above - Italian Immigrants - and not even ALL of them - were SOMETIMES rounded up.

In the case of Japanese-Americans, ALL of the THEM in the continental US - INCLUDING those who were US CITIZENS - were rounded up, even if their families had been here for a generation or more.

Racism.

Ken
 
Old 11-10-2012, 08:22 AM
 
36,352 posts, read 16,228,192 times
Reputation: 9764
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
It wasn't ME that brought it up. That was that neo-NAZI guy "Jesus Christ Superstar":



The fact is, German U-boat attacks killed Americans well before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and we were at war with the Germans and the Italians as well as the Japanese, but ONLY Japanese-Americans were rounded up and imprisoned. Why is that? Why was it only the guys who didn't look like us?
Hmmmmmm.......
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.


Regarding the "Whether there is any truth to that..." - absolutely there there is truth to it. Clearly you don't know much about history. There were several U-Boat attacks on US ships prior to the Pearl Harbor attack. Here are a couple of the better-known ones:

The US freighter "Steel Seafarer" was sunk by a German U-Boat in September of 1941 - as was the US freighter "Montana"

The Destroyer USS Ruben James was sunk by the German U-Boat U-552 in October of 1941 killing 115 of the crew of 160

So, yeah it DID happen.

Ken
And the past has what to do with today? I already pointed out to you that in today's world Latinos and Asians are enjoying the highest quotas for immigration into our country by far. There is very little immigration from white European countries anymore. It has flipped but yet you are still screaming racism?
 
Old 11-10-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
19,868 posts, read 22,731,855 times
Reputation: 7167
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
And the past has what to do with today? I already pointed out to you that in today's world Latinos and Asians are enjoying the highest quotas for immigration into our country by far. There is very little immigration from white European countries anymore. It has flipped but yet you are still screaming racism?
So tell that your neo-NAZI friend "Jesus Christ Superstar". HE'S the one who brought up how it was PATRIOTIC to round up the Japanese-Americans.

I was simply responding to the point HE brought up - and then YOU folks joined in.



Ken
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top