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Old 10-17-2007, 07:14 AM
 
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civil rights manifest themselves in many different forms. civil rights within america are different than civil rights within north america. just because the civil rights laws are only on the books in america doesnt mean they arent warranted outside as well.
What "civil rights" are being denied to them?
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:13 AM
 
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What "civil rights" are being denied to them?
i guess you could rephrase it as "basic human rights". the ability to work, eat healthy food, have a decent shelter, have basic healthcare, etc.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:18 AM
 
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i guess you could rephrase it as "basic human rights". the ability to work, eat healthy food, have a decent shelter, have basic healthcare, etc.
Not being citizens, ILLEGALS are not entitled to ANY of those priveleges here. They ARE "priveleges" not "rights", FYI. Our Country provides certain rights and priveleges to it's CITIZENS, as do all other countries. NONE of these rights or priveleges were designed for nor should they be provided to ILLEGAL CRIMINALS who come here ILLEGALLY and begin DEMANDING rights.

Aside from doing our best not to kill them or torture them, we owe nothing else to ILLEGALS before we catch and deport them all.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:53 AM
 
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i guess you could rephrase it as "basic human rights". the ability to work, eat healthy food, have a decent shelter, have basic healthcare, etc.
Isn't this something they should be seeking in their home countries? Not to mention that many US citizens do not have these basic rights. IMO they need to be taken care of first before foreign nationals.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:03 PM
 
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Not being citizens, ILLEGALS are not entitled to ANY of those priveleges here. They ARE "priveleges" not "rights", FYI. Our Country provides certain rights and priveleges to it's CITIZENS, as do all other countries. NONE of these rights or priveleges were designed for nor should they be provided to ILLEGAL CRIMINALS who come here ILLEGALLY and begin DEMANDING rights.
i understand your points. i disagree with the current laws. will you allow me to do that? pretty please?

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Aside from doing our best not to kill them or torture them, we owe nothing else to ILLEGALS before we catch and deport them all.

your opinion. not mine. have a nice day.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:04 PM
 
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Isn't this something they should be seeking in their home countries? Not to mention that many US citizens do not have these basic rights. IMO they need to be taken care of first before foreign nationals.
their home countries arent as wealthy as us, and are more unable to provide for them than we are. this country should be taking money its dumping into bureaucracies and war efforts, and feed & house both its citizens and desperate foreigners. theres a radical concept.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:06 PM
 
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Happens to be the opinion of the majority of Americans. The only people who feel different are the pro-illegal people like you Ghost.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:08 PM
 
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Happens to be the opinion of the majority of Americans. The only people who feel different are the pro-illegal people like you Ghost.
thank you, captain obvious.

but the majority of americans dont always know what is good for them. we elected bush, twice.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:40 PM
 
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their home countries arent as wealthy as us, and are more unable to provide for them than we are. this country should be taking money its dumping into bureaucracies and war efforts, and feed & house both its citizens and desperate foreigners. theres a radical concept.
I don't disagree that our administration needs to be better stewards with our money, however I don't feel we should be responsible for taking in all of the world's downtrodden people. The majority of our illegal immigrants are here for economic reasons and convenience. There are people across the globe that are being raped, beaten, and murdered in astronomical numbers. IMO their situation is much more dire. So if we are going to help people out, we should help those who are in worse situations first.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:44 PM
 
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i understand your points. i disagree with the current laws. will you allow me to do that? pretty please?




your opinion. not mine. have a nice day.
You are free to have whatever opinion you'd like to. We could all do without all the added sarcasm each time you post when somebody disagrees with you, however.
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