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Old 11-25-2013, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrSykes View Post
I have noticed a tendency on the part of some immigrant rights activist groups to refer to the current immigration struggle as some sort of "New Civil Rights Movement". While I can understand the wide-ranging precedential significance of the 20th-century Civil Rights Movement in the arena of human rights activism, as a black American and direct beneficiary of the many gains made by the Civil Rights Movement, I cannot help finding this appropriation somewhat insulting. To think that a group (who I'm willing to bet would otherwise have no real interest in the historical plight of blacks in this country) could so unabashedly and gratuitously co-opt the very essence of the Civil Rights Movement to fit their own agenda is disturbing. I think both movements should be considered in proper perspective, as the fundamental goals of each are markedly different. I also find it painfully ironic that the very country from which most illegal immigrants hail has certainly done (and continues to do) its part to severely marginalize their own residents of African descent.

Would you agree that such a comparison is unwarranted, or am I too provincial in my view of civil rights?
Agree fully. The idea that people who are here illegally, who defy our laws, and demand the U.S. change its immigration laws specifically to suit the needs of foreigners who insist they have the right to come here, at their own discretion, is beyond insulting, it is unabashedly audacious. Notice also, on those rare occasions when our laws are enforced, they have the nerve to claim their "rights" are being violated. Immigration laws are suppose to suit the needs of this country, and its legal citizens, they are not intended to specifically suit the needs of the immigrant who insist they have a God given right to come here as they please, and exploit this country.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:59 AM
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The irony --- the group that Cesar Chavez led was far more aligned with the American Civil rights movement than the La Raza (The Race) pro-open borders groups today could ever be.

Cesar Chavez was joined in a march to the border by Ralph Abernathy and Walter Mondale to demand that the border be enforced and illegals prevented from coming over to grab up the jobs.

The UFW led by Cesar Chavez was not at all pro-open borders. They were smarter liberals back in those days, they understood that illegals were for the purpose of bringing down wages.
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