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I think you know as well as I do though that if an amnesty is passed for these DACA recipients that later congress will allow their parents to stay also because of the cries of family separation. That is why I don't want an amnesty for kids brought here by their parents. The end result will be rewarding their parents here illegally for breaking our immigration laws. It will just snowball from there. Next will be amnestying parents here illegally with U.S. born children. No thanks, no amnesties whatsoever. Remove all the incentives for them remaining here or to continue to come here. Jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship. Can we get it done in congress? I doubt it and for various reasons. I agree with you from an earlier post. I'd rather leave it at the status quo than the above. When our country finally goes bankrupt from supporting them and millions more Americans are out of work the cold hard facts of illegal immigration will finally come to roost with the clueless in our government.
I think yours is a sensible post. I can see and hear the crys from the parents, crying wolf, because they are separated from their children.
And your probably right the end result would probably be rewarding these parents, so after all coming here illegally, breaking our laws, would pay off for them big time.
We're broke freaking for gosh sakes now, do we really need more illegals. We have americans out of work, and illegals working, what part of this is acceptable.
At some point someone someplace, is going to have to have tough ball- because if this problem escalates, we may never get this problem under some sort of control.
The Government is not clueless on this problem, the Government needs these people. And that is mighty sad at the cost of what Americans have to put up with.
The only DREAM Act I would support would be for people who came to this country as children under the age of 10, and actually grew up here. It certainly wouldn't include those who entered at 15 and lived here only 5 years. It would also disqualify their parents or other adults who brought them here from EVER being sponsored. The current DREAM Act and DACA rewards their parents for violating our laws. But then, what's new? After all, this country has a history of rewarding illegal aliens.
Under 10 would be much better -- but if and only if the criminal parents would be deported.
It's absurd that lawbreakers who would actually turn over their own young children to these criminal smuggling rings and risk their own children's lives and safety would expect to be awarded for having done so.
There are illegals who actually have more concern for their children and don't expose them to drug smugglers, rapists and so on --- they know it's very dangerous to hand over children to these criminal groups and so leave them with parents or others --- also not good -- but a whole lot better and some send money back to support those kids.
Why would the nastier group of parents expect to be rewarded for what they did to those kids?
The parents of the children smuggled in should also be charged with the crime of child abuse -- all for their lust of easy money, they willingly exposed their children to very dangerous situations. Many young children are raped, many children brought through the desert die along the way, they've found these people bringing even babies through putrid sewer systems.
No decent parent would put children they care about through this.
Wow, I like that idea. We could take Permex Oil and lower gas prices, Incoroprate the cartels (stamp
made in America on every bag) and export dope to other Nations while utlizing child labor to mfg. clothing. Just think of the money we could make on ransom from kidnappings.
Where do I sign up ??? I always wanted to live in the tropics--
Wow, I like that idea. We could take Permex Oil and lower gas prices, Incoroprate the cartels (stamp made in America on every bag) and export dope to other Nations while utlizing child labor to mfg. clothing. Just think of the money we could make on ransom from kidnappings.
Where do I sign up ??? I always wanted to live in the tropics--
It isn't really "tropics" until Chiapas (from a rain forest perspective). The drug cartels are mostly in northern Mexico, they have to be close enough to their major client. Children often work (bagging groceries is probably the most common) to help with family income, but it has to be outside of school hours.
It isn't really "tropics" until Chiapas (from a rain forest perspective). The drug cartels are mostly in northern Mexico, they have to be close enough to their major client. Children often work (bagging groceries is probably the most common) to help with family income, but it has to be outside of school hours.
They better hope the stores don't get the idea of unionizing those jobs. It will be adults making careers out of them.
They better hope the stores don't get the idea of unionizing those jobs. It will be adults making careers out of them.
Mexico is particularly eye-opening when it comes to Capitalism, you will see angles that you never thought of. I hope that the incoming administration (in Mexico) can keep the growth and notable changes going. A stronger economy there should be welcome news here.
If the Dream act people want their amnesty: would they be willing to follow a few rules?
Age 14 or younger when the came here with their illegal alien parents but they'd have to show PROOF they were here.
ANY screwup like a small misdemeanor and they're outta here and can't come back for 10 years!
The parents have to leave, period.
End birthright citizenship.
5 year wait before they can apply of US citizenship
Voting in English ONLY.
How many Dream act people would make it? Maybe a few 1000 and that'd be it.
The dream act does not grant amnesty. The dream act stands for...development, relief, and education for alien minors. And yes there are certain criterias they have to fulfill in order to be eligible. It's all about education though, not amnesty.
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