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Old 10-14-2007, 06:23 AM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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What do you think people? should we Mexican citizens become more involved in this debate and contribute with ideas?

Please don't get confused, I'm not talking about immigrants here but of mexican citizens, those of us who live in Mexico, pay taxes, respect laws, care about our home and want something done to keep improving it.

I think that thanks to us things are much better than 30 years ago, and they will keep getting better, I guess most of us worry about this immigration issue and I don't think it is be wise to give a blind eye to it and pretend nothing is happening, but what to do?

please share your thoughts, let's try to have a constructive, civilized debate with more head than gut.

Respect!

Last edited by Travelling fella; 10-14-2007 at 06:29 AM.. Reason: correction of minor typographical errors
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Old 10-14-2007, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Good ol Georgia
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Personally I think alot of Amercian Citizens are tired of hearing what mexico has to say on the subject. mexico seems to be pro-illegal immigration. I know I for one am sick of hearing Fox and his demands on my country for his citizens.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:17 AM
 
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A Pro-ILLEGAL supporter definitively stated their position NBC 5 News in Dallas last night during the coverage of the rallies in Irving yesterday: "This was mexico before, and it is mexico now."

That seems to be not only the opinion of the Pro-Illegals, but of mexico's government. And no offense to you Fella, as I am certain that every Mexican citizen does not share the opinions of it's govt just as every American does not share the views of our govt.

What I would like to know is this: How does the average Mexican citizen such as yourself feel about the treatment of the Illegals forced to come to the U.S. in desperation feel about the Mexican govt's inaction? Thank you for sticking around these forums. I personally value your opinions. :-)
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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A Pro-ILLEGAL supporter definitively stated their position NBC 5 News in Dallas last night during the coverage of the rallies in Irving yesterday: "This was mexico before, and it is mexico now."

That seems to be not only the opinion of the Pro-Illegals, but of mexico's government. And no offense to you Fella, as I am certain that every Mexican citizen does not share the opinions of it's govt just as every American does not share the views of our govt.

What I would like to know is this: How does the average Mexican citizen such as yourself feel about the treatment of the Illegals forced to come to the U.S. in desperation feel about the Mexican govt's inaction? Thank you for sticking around these forums. I personally value your opinions. :-)
Interesting how us Americans of American Indian heritage would feel about that------they too were conquered by Hispanics from Spain.

In other words; Mexico is on very shaky moral/legal ground at best.

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In the 1860s the country again underwent a military occupation, this time by France, which established the Habsburg Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian of Austria on the Mexican throne as Emperor Maximilian I of Mexico with support from the Catholic clergy and the conservative Mexicans. This Second Mexican Empire was victorious for only a few years, when the previous president of the Republic, the Zapotec Indian Benito Juárez, managed to restore the republic in 1867.
In fact; going by the above quote from Wikipedia-Mexico, it appears that Mexico was truly independent only from 1867 on------after the Mexican-American War.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:40 AM
 
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Interesting how us Americans of American Indian heritage would feel about that------they too were conquered by Hispanics from Spain.
I recently watched "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee". Kind of a bad movie, but, it certainly reminded me of just how badly we treated the Native Americans. If ANYBODY in this country has the right to be angry, it is the Native Americans. I mean, the U.S. govt laced their blankets with smallpox, for gods sake!
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:51 AM
 
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the native americans were definitely mistreated, but so are modern day mexicans. its funny how we never questioned their immigration or cheap labor practices when we needed them, but now that the dollar is devalued and cost of living has gone up (thanks federal reserve act!), we treat them like criminals. how convenient!
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:05 AM
 
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[quote=PApisces;1728206]A Pro-ILLEGAL supporter definitively stated their position NBC 5 News in Dallas last night during the coverage of the rallies in Irving yesterday: "This was mexico before, and it is mexico now."

We're gonna have a "Sudetenland" situation here very soon!
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Cali
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the native americans were definitely mistreated, but so are modern day mexicans. its funny how we never questioned their immigration or cheap labor practices when we needed them, but now that the dollar is devalued and cost of living has gone up (thanks federal reserve act!), we treat them like criminals. how convenient!
The dollar is being devalued on purpose so the glabalists can force us to have a single currency for North America!
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:10 AM
 
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the native americans were definitely mistreated, but so are modern day mexicans. its funny how we never questioned their immigration or cheap labor practices when we needed them, but now that the dollar is devalued and cost of living has gone up (thanks federal reserve act!), we treat them like criminals. how convenient!
"WE" never "needed' them. Big business chose to use them and the govt turned a blind eye to the issue, in favor of Big Business's desire to pay bottom dollar for labor and charge top dollar for the fruits of the ILLEGALS labor.. In fact, big business and the govt STILL are. We, the People, are not any longer.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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A Pro-ILLEGAL supporter definitively stated their position NBC 5 News in Dallas last night during the coverage of the rallies in Irving yesterday: "This was mexico before, and it is mexico now."

We're gonna have a "Sudetenland" situation here very soon!
I am not so sure about that: the USA is the 800 lb gorilla here unlike Czechoslovakia (home of the Sudetenland Germans) in 1938.

And too; many Latinos here are true blue Americans.
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