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Old 12-03-2012, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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By the qualifications that many states have in place, even a non-immigrant can get a driver's license...

It's not just for citizens...
No, but it IS for non-citizens/non-immigrants with legal status. Why should we authorize people who have no legal right to even be here, with a document that allows them to board airplanes, enter federal buildings, etc? Talk about an invitation for terrorism. It's bad enough DACA applicants were rubber-stamped. Hopefully, none with nefarious intent have been approved. But, sadly, we won't know until AFTER the fact. Of course, then it will be too late.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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By the qualifications that many states have in place, even a non-immigrant can get a driver's license...

It's not just for citizens...
You are still avoiding the word / status illegal. Yes non citizens with a legal status can get a license but not illegals.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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You are still avoiding the word / status illegal. Yes non citizens with a legal status can get a license but not illegals.
You didn't read the article I quoted:

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But several immigration lawyers said they believe the majority of non-citizens who use work permits to get driver’s licenses in Arizona are illegal immigrants placed in deportation proceedings due to the state’s ongoing crackdown on illegal immigrants.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:13 PM
 
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You didn't read the article I quoted:
You answer was contrary to the article.

See your post & my reply.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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You answer was contrary to the article.

See your post & my reply.
So now that you've read the article, you've heard that the Arizona DMV under Governor Brewer's administration has issued driver's licenses to illegal aliens before, why is this being made into a different issue?...

I do need to check that others here have read certain information, and can discern what it means...

An example of a recent nature that wasn't entirely understood comes quickly to mind, but rather than risking a any potential fallout here, I'm thinking about posting the topic in P&OC instead...
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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So now that you've read the article, you've heard that the Arizona DMV under Governor Brewer's administration has issued driver's licenses to illegal aliens before, why is this being made into a different issue?...

I do need to check that others here have read certain information, and can discern what it means...

An example of a recent nature that wasn't entirely understood comes quickly to mind, but rather than risking a any potential fallout here, I'm thinking about posting the topic in P&OC instead...
Th point was not about the article. It was your response to the question.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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You didn't read the article I quoted:
Are you actually suggesting simply because several immigration lawyers said they "believe" something, we should accept that as fact? Lawyers will say anything they think will win a case. They're also not known to be the most ethical people on planet earth. After all, they willingly defend clients they know are guilty as sin, including the vilest form of human scum. No offense to the handful of decent lawyers in this country. Furthermore, how did so many illegal aliens in deportation proceedings receive work authorization? They're grasping at straws.
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Are you actually suggesting simply because several immigration lawyers said they "believe" something, we should accept that as fact? Lawyers will say anything they think will win a case. They're also not known to be the most ethical people on planet earth. After all, they willingly defend clients they know are guilty as sin, including the vilest form of human scum. No offense to the handful of decent lawyers in this country. Furthermore, how did so many illegal aliens in deportation proceedings receive work authorization? They're grasping at straws.
Having an "EAD" (Employment Authorization Document) is relatively uncommon otherwise. K-1 visas (fiance(e) of a U.S. citizen) generally don't get stamped for employment on entry, and time on K-3 visas (spouse of a U.S. citizen) has decreased dramatically in recent years (so they just wait for legal residency status rather than filing additionally for employment of only a few months). I filed for my wife, but it was rejected.

Who would know their client's immigration status better than an immigration lawyer? The number was 39,600 driver's licenses issued since 2006 in Arizona using EAD as the primary identification document. LPRs would not use EAD (USCIS is going to want the I-766 back after they issue the Resident Card), it is defined as not being for "immigrants".

What is so hard to believe?...

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Old 12-03-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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Having an "EAD" (Employment Authorization Document) is relatively uncommon otherwise. K-1 visas (fiance(e) of a U.S. citizen) generally don't get stamped for employment on entry, and time on K-3 visas (spouse of a U.S. citizen) has decreased dramatically in recent years (so they just wait for legal residency status rather than filing additionally for employment of only a few months). I filed for my wife, but it was rejected.

Who would know their client's immigration status better than an immigration lawyer? The number was 39,600 driver's licenses issued since 2006 in Arizona using EAD as the primary identification document. LPRs would not use EAD (USCIS is going to want the I-766 back after they issue the Resident Card), it is defined as being not being for "immigrants".

What is so hard to believe?...
Everything you just posted is for immigrants legally here.

Deferred action did not give them legal status to be here.
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Having an "EAD" (Employment Authorization Document) is relatively uncommon otherwise. K-1 visas (fiance(e) of a U.S. citizen) generally don't get stamped for employment on entry, and time on K-3 visas (spouse of a U.S. citizen) has decreased dramatically in recent years (so they just wait for legal residency status rather than filing additionally for employment of only a few months). I filed for my wife, but it was rejected.

Who would know their client's immigration status better than an immigration lawyer? The number was 39,600 driver's licenses issued since 2006 in Arizona using EAD as the primary identification document. LPRs would not use EAD (USCIS is going to want the I-766 back after they issue the Resident Card), it is defined as being not being for "immigrants".

What is so hard to believe?...
You have only the word *cough* of immigration lawyers. If they actually represented the thousands of illegals they claim received licenses, they wouldn't have to "believe" they know anything, would they? They would have concrete proof.
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