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Old 10-15-2007, 04:39 PM
 
Location: California
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Really?

Interesting how the illegals can round up 5 / 6 K to pay to a coyote yet can't pay the costs of doing it legally?????
1. Doesn't cost 5-6k

2. The 3-4k required to pay is provided by their Legal or Illegal family members that they have living here.

 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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well then the US could send any citizens over the border, and they become criminals. so are you saying we should send average american citizens over the border to be fair? flawed logic, obviously.
Name one country - just one, that has no requirements for lawful permanent residency in their country - just one without a permanent immigration policy
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:40 PM
 
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First ghost says its 10 years and thousands of dollars to cross the border now he says they cross back and forth during the work week

at any rate can you bring to bear on the argument facts supporting either of your opposing views
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:42 PM
 
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Ghost clearly lost this debate.
hahaha, you are the moderator now? keep dreaming, buddy.

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Just as an epilouge I'd like some sources on those "facts" about starving and massecred Mexicans.
US Illegal Immigration Explained - Profits and Poverty, Social Security and Starvation

read part 2.

Michel Chossudovsky, "Global Poverty in the Late 20th Century," Journal of International Affairs, Vol. 52, no. 1 (Fall 1998)

published in an accredited journal (notice the .edu, he's a professor)


YouTube - Poverty Along the Mexico Border

theres some photojournalism to back it up.
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:46 PM
 
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I don't believe you - can you prove this or, are we merely to "take your word for it"? For, I also am very familiar with someone, coming from Mexico, that it cost around $500 and 1 year
neither one can be proven. that much is true.

i am having trouble finding a reputable source for any sort of pay scale for immigration. anybody care to help out?
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:48 PM
 
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Ours is not a 30 year wait nor 500K

Pure hyberbole
of course its hyperbole. i was using an extreme to make a point. if it's over your head, do us all a favor and stay out of the discussion.
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:48 PM
 
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About dot com and a Canuck economist

you'll have to do better with your

"facts"
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:49 PM
 
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First ghost says its 10 years and thousands of dollars to cross the border now he says they cross back and forth during the work week

at any rate can you bring to bear on the argument facts supporting either of your opposing views
10k to "legally" immigrate. back & forth crossing is "illegal" immigration/emigration.
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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of course its hyperbole. i was using an extreme to make a point. if it's over your head, do us all a favor and stay out of the discussion.
Well - I started this thread - and, you have been off topic (along with many others) for quite some time

And, IMO, your "point" was, to be blunt, stupid
 
Old 10-15-2007, 04:52 PM
 
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then theres the 4/5 thousand dollar types that get money from family already here. Why dont they just back and forth like everyone else
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