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Old 10-17-2007, 09:20 AM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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Why not simply fine illegals and issue a work visa so they won't need to steal anyone else's ID to work? Public policy could be as simple as that.

I am not sure why there is so much drama regarding making simple policy decisions that can reduce public and private sector costs, and end the problem of illegal migrant labor participation in the US market for labor.


Why not simply charge illegals with a crime and issue a deportation order? That would solve any future issues. Personally I am sick of rewarding criminals.
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why not simply fine illegals and issue a work visa so they won't need to steal anyone else's ID to work? Public policy could be as simple as that.

I am not sure why there is so much drama regarding making simple policy decisions that can reduce public and private sector costs, and end the problem of illegal migrant labor participation in the US market for labor.
The problem; danielpalos, is there are at least 12 million illegal immigrants here-----not counting their anchor babies, in other words, way too many to 'amnesty'.

Now: I will admit it we had 1-2 million illegals who were otherwise obeying the law........I could then see the point of amnesty.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:06 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Why not simply charge illegals with a crime and issue a deportation order? That would solve any future issues. Personally I am sick of rewarding criminals.
You wouldn't be rewarding criminals if they have to pay a fine and then get issued a work visa, in much the same manner as a fixit ticket.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:00 PM
 
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Why not simply fine illegals and issue a work visa so they won't need to steal anyone else's ID to work? Public policy could be as simple as that.

I am not sure why there is so much drama regarding making simple policy decisions that can reduce public and private sector costs, and end the problem of illegal migrant labor participation in the US market for labor.
Great idea! Why not just give bank robbers cash so they wouldn't have to rob banks? Oh, and drug dealers too, hmmmm seems like I'm leaving someone out....rapists, what should we do with them???? Hmm????????????
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:01 PM
 
Location: California
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Great idea! Why not just give bank robbers cash so they wouldn't have to rob banks? Oh, and drug dealers too, hmmmm seems like I'm leaving someone out....rapists, what should we do with them???? Hmm????????????


Why do we ignorant Americans believe that all illegals are murders, drug dealers and rapists? Have we been watching too much Scarface?
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Old 11-01-2007, 10:03 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Great idea! Why not just give bank robbers cash so they wouldn't have to rob banks? Oh, and drug dealers too, hmmmm seems like I'm leaving someone out....rapists, what should we do with them???? Hmm????????????
You must be confusing felony illegals with misdemeanor illegals. Crossing the border without inspection is about as serious as jaywalking across a state line; literally.

Why not simply fine them and issue a market friendly work visa, for a small additional fee; or do you like paying higher taxes so you can feel superior to someone who is willing to work as hard, or harder than you.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:16 PM
 
Location: California
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You must be confusing felony illegals with misdemeanor illegals. Crossing the border without inspection is about as serious as jaywalking across a state line; literally.

Why not simply fine them and issue a market friendly work visa, for a small additional fee; or do you like paying higher taxes so you can feel superior to someone who is willing to work as hard, or harder than you.
Good point. Something of that magnitude could potentially put billions in the Governments hands and save them billions as well. They won't help the illegals pay for their babies, they can just deduct off their pay check now that they are legal. They should do this with the current illegals living in the U.S and then put more money towards border security.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:51 AM
 
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Why do we ignorant Americans believe that all illegals are murders, drug dealers and rapists? Have we been watching too much Scarface?
Speak for yourself kid, the stats on your kinfolk however, speak for themselves.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:22 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Can you cite any sources for your contention?
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:26 AM
 
Location: California
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Speak for yourself kid, the stats on your kinfolk however, speak for themselves.
Yes, please enlighten us with your sources.
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