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Old 10-18-2007, 06:54 PM
 
Location: California
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No pun intended really guys. I'm sorry if I offended some of you guys.
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Someone must have turned on a light, they all scurried back into the cracks
LOL! Funny.
I think the light should stay on until they are all caught.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:59 PM
 
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That can be changed. And should be.
Yes it should be changed. and make it retroactive for about fifty years..
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yes it should be changed. and make it retroactive for about fifty years..
Closing the 'anchor baby' loophole I can understand------making it retroactive I have a severe problem with.

If nothing else: say a child was born here and both of his parents were born here yet all four of the grandparents were illegal immigrants 50 years ago--------stripping the citizenships of all the US born people simply due to what the previous generation did-------I think not. The US born individuals were legal under US law at the time.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:16 AM
 
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I swear that ever since the Employer Sanctions Act was signed into law; the one that is supposed to take effect early 2008, Latino immigrants seem to be getting thinner on the ground.

I live in the edge of a Latino immigrant enclave here in Scottsdale and it seems to me that more and apartments are emptying out.

Part of it is due to 'urban renewal' admittedly; as apartment leases run out, the affected units are being boarded up.

Stiil; the area is definitely showing signs of people clearing out.

NOTE: the adults have that 'look' of having lived harder lives than people born/raised here in the USA hence probably being illegal immigrants from SOB and possibly points further south.
I too live in Scottsdale, and quite frankly, there aren't that many Hispanics that actually live in the area other than two or three streets in south Scottsdale. I don't feel the "laws" will be enforced here in Phoenix. Robbery suspects blame employer sanctions law | EastValleyTribune.com (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/98772 - broken link)
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:19 AM
 
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I also posted about something like this....Phoenix is a booming city but when all the construction is finished and there is no work for them anymore, do they stay on as welfare kings/queens and gang members or do they move away? If they move, hopefully it is back to Mexico and not somewhere else in America.

Here in Maryland my town is overrun with illegals. My town has changed in the past 20 from an idllyic small town to a booming DC suburb to a replica of Tijuana in some parts....

I'm in DC quite a bit and I don't see it so much. Are you talking about some of the older, run down areas? I thought you would find this interesting:
Crime Without Consequence - Drug runners go free - ABC15.com: Phoenix, Arizona News, Weather, Radar, Breaking News, Traffic and Web Cams
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:24 AM
 
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Unfortunately for the rest of the country, Arizona is still considered a focus region for DHS. Areas such as Sasabe, Naco, and other Arizona border areas are still number one entry points for undocumented migrants to enter the united States illegally usaully by smuggling organizations which transport these illegal migrants to areas throughout the United States. Arizona has been successful in running out permanent illegal residents, but still has to deal with the immigrants travelling through thier state. the desert landscape is littered with trash, the organized smugglers based in Arizona, and the daily bodies with are found in the desert from dehydration, etc.

Good luck maybe if the rest of the country becomes unattrative to these illegal undocumented migrants and start enforcing our immigration laws these immigrants will stop coming to our country.
Agreed. I feel Arizona is much worse than many other border states. It's worse here now than ever before unfortunately. I honestly don't htink it will ever change. Sure, there will be a "crack down" for about a week - and then things will go back to the way there were. If Arizona lost all the illegal workers they have now, no one could afford to live here. We already have skyrocketing housing prices, everything else is expensive here (except our housing taxes, but those are on the rise sharply now also) and if we lose the cheap labor we have now, this city will fall quickly. That would be sad.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Agreed. I feel Arizona is much worse than many other border states. It's worse here now than ever before unfortunately. I honestly don't htink it will ever change. Sure, there will be a "crack down" for about a week - and then things will go back to the way there were. If Arizona lost all the illegal workers they have now, no one could afford to live here. We already have skyrocketing housing prices, everything else is expensive here (except our housing taxes, but those are on the rise sharply now also) and if we lose the cheap labor we have now, this city will fall quickly. That would be sad.
If the Phx area is that fragile economically: we deserve to collapse if we such a bunch of 'cripples' that we cannot do things for ourselves-------when I say cripple-------I am not referring to people with handicaps but to us 'healthy' folks.
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:42 AM
 
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If the Phx area is that fragile economically: we deserve to collapse if we such a bunch of 'cripples' that we cannot do things for ourselves-------when I say cripple-------I am not referring to people with handicaps but to us 'healthy' folks.
I understand how you are using the word. I don't know ArizonaBear. I really like it here, but it's changed so much. I wish I lived in Prescott instead of Scottsdale, but there is nothing I can do about it. It just seems that Phoenix relies so much on construction, and all those jobs like at Google, that were to bring in 1000-3000 jobs have amounted to a lousy 300! I kind of felt when the housing started going through the roof that it would start a lot of problems, and it has. Shame too, Phoenix is really a nice place to shop.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:30 PM
 
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The 14th Amendement was intended for children of slaves born in the US to become US citizens. OBL and activist judges misinterpret this amendment. It needs to be abolished as slavery has long been outlawed.
You are correct, if the 14th amendment is repealed, then the rules could be changed so people born in the US wouldn't automatically be US citizens. Until then though, there is no point in complaining about "activist" judges and others. I believe you're in the vast minority believing that the US currently shouldn't be using the territorial principle based on what's currently on the books.
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