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Old 12-28-2012, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
You're drunk in your anonymity here at City-Data, with comments beyond the pale. Proposing war by the United States against an entire non-hostile nation means it is no longer about illegal immigration for you. My family and millions of other Mexicans have not done any harm to you or any other person in this country.

I'm surprised that anyone would post a supporting comment on your remarks, not the condemnation it deserves. However, I think we need to have a much wider viewership of what you have said. Thank You fohr the captured image that I will retain long after we hear the snap of Yac taking care of some business here.
And yet here we are, 51 post's later, still waiting, and waiting, and----

To say Mexico is a non-hostile nation is ridicilous at best. Any country that has a "patron saint of the
drug lord's" must have a really dark side. How many dead in those "non-hostile" drug wars last year ?

I better quit now, because ,I think I hear Yac snapping up those other 50 posters.

 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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There's a huge difference between foreigners entering this country with inspection and permission, and those who sneak across our borders like thieves in the night. The former are invited, while the latter are invaders.

I do believe members of the National Guard have fought in wars. They have also protected our borders. Do you consider their presence at our borders an act of war against Mexico?
There's also been Navy Seabees building on the border fence. The National Guard numbers have been reduced to 300 for 2012, and it is unknown if they will be extended further. Based on current apprehensions, that is a cost of over $6,000 per arrest for the Department of Defense.

I think that current level isn't even necessarily a "militarized" border. The military tasked in the effort are mostly for surveillance, and adequate for the number of Border Patrol agents now on duty. Of course I don't think more are needed (with apprehension levels at a thirty-year low), nor anything like a "war".
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: southern california
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when u let people walk all over u, if you stand up and say anything, they think there is something wrong with you. thank u john mccain.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
There's also been Navy Seabees building on the border fence. The National Guard numbers have been reduced to 300 for 2012, and it is unknown if they will be extended further. Based on current apprehensions, that is a cost of over $6,000 per arrest for the Department of Defense.

I think that current level isn't even necessarily a "militarized" border. The military tasked in the effort are mostly for surveillance, and adequate for the number of Border Patrol agents now on duty. Of course I don't think more are needed (with apprehension levels at a thirty-year low), nor anything like a "war".
Still waiting for answers to my questions...........
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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And yet here we are, 51 post's later, still waiting, and waiting, and----

To say Mexico is a non-hostile nation is ridicilous at best. Any country that has a "patron saint of the
drug lord's" must have a really dark side. How many dead in those "non-hostile" drug wars last year ?

I better quit now, because ,I think I hear Yac snapping up those other 50 posters.
You trivialize the religious principles and politics of millions of Mexicans. If there is any national icon for Mexicans, it is rather the Our Lady of Guadalupe. It is America with the drug addiction problem, which causes the violence in Mexico.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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You trivialize the religious principles and politics of millions of Mexicans. If there is any national icon for Mexicans, it is rather the Our Lady of Guadalupe. It is America with the drug addiction problem, which causes the violence in Mexico.
Of course Mexicans are "forced" to become drug lords and cartels because of that, right? FYI, there are Mexicans hooked on drugs also.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Of course Mexicans are "forced" to become drug lords and cartels because of that, right? FYI, there are Mexicans hooked on drugs also.
The comparable addiction levels would really surprise you, of course we've seen how you respond to actually statistics (teen pregnancy is also low compared to the U.S.). But this really isn't about that, is it? You guys are disingenuous and bringing up other issues even yourself to define this "invasion" outside the boundaries of just illegal immigration.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
There's also been Navy Seabees building on the border fence. The National Guard numbers have been reduced to 300 for 2012, and it is unknown if they will be extended further. Based on current apprehensions, that is a cost of over $6,000 per arrest for the Department of Defense.

I think that current level isn't even necessarily a "militarized" border. The military tasked in the effort are mostly for surveillance, and adequate for the number of Border Patrol agents now on duty. Of course I don't think more are needed (with apprehension levels at a thirty-year low), nor anything like a "war".
The fact remains, our National Guard has been deployed to combat zones as well as our border. So, having the "military" on our border does not constitute waging war against Mexico.

I disagree. The only way we will stop the flow of illegal aliens, including barbaric Mexican drug traffickers and terrorists, is to militarize our border with Mexico. We have our military protecting the borders in foreign countries, while our own borders are porous. It makes no sense, and IMO, it's a national disgrace.
 
Old 12-28-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
You trivialize the religious principles and politics of millions of Mexicans. If there is any national icon for Mexicans, it is rather the Our Lady of Guadalupe. It is America with the drug addiction problem, which causes the violence in Mexico.
Yes, America has a drug problem. But, you can't have drug addictions without drugs.
 
Old 12-29-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: The Mini-Apple
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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
There's also been Navy Seabees building on the border fence. The National Guard numbers have been reduced to 300 for 2012, and it is unknown if they will be extended further. Based on current apprehensions, that is a cost of over $6,000 per arrest for the Department of Defense.

I think that current level isn't even necessarily a "militarized" border. The military tasked in the effort are mostly for surveillance, and adequate for the number of Border Patrol agents now on duty. Of course I don't think more are needed (with apprehension levels at a thirty-year low), nor anything like a "war".
Translation: let every third world South American and Mexican come to this country any time.

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Originally Posted by IBMMuseum View Post
It is America with the drug addiction problem, which causes the violence in Mexico.
Blaming America again here for situations in the dump Mexico.
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