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Old 01-17-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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“People are tired of two things: they’re tired of illegal immigrants constantly crossing the border with no recourse, and they’re also tired that we don’t treat people who are here as productive American citizens,” Schumer told reporters including WCBS 880′s Monica Miller.

“It’s going to be very generous on legal immigration but very tough on illegal immigration,” said Schumer. “
Schumer: Coming Bipartisan Measure Will Be ‘Very Tough’ On Illegal Immigration « CBS New York


Why should we treat illegal aliens as "productive American citizens?" Does the BS never end?

Well, after granting amnesty to our current crop of illegals, probably 30 million, I guess the government can be "very tough" on illegal immigration. But, that's the same line they fed us in 1986. In fact, they said the enforcement would be "so tough" it would end illegal immigration, and we would NEVER need another amnesty. I think we all know that was a bald-faced lie.

If they enforce CIR with the same ineptitude as IRCA, we can expect millions more to come illegally, employers to continue to operate outside the law with impunity, even more rampant fleecing of U.S. taxpayers, millions of additional anchor babies, more victims of illegal alien DUIs, more victims of illegal alien SSN ID theft, etc, etc, etc. Then, in another 10, 15, 20 years we'll have to pass another law. After all, CIR will be considered "broken." Of course, the new law MUST include a path to citizenship for those currently here. Anything less would be racist, discriminatory, and downright un-American.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:13 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I don't see why we can't be VERY TOUGH on it right now. No amnesty, no path to citizenship, no freebies. Go home and stay there. We don't want you here.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I don't see why we can't be VERY TOUGH on it right now. No amnesty, no path to citizenship, no freebies. Go home and stay there. We don't want you here.
Exactly! Why not enforce our current laws? But, I think we both know the answer to that.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Exactly! Why not enforce our current laws? But, I think we both know the answer to that.
Because americans are aborting their future voting citizens (60 million so far), so politicians (on both sides) see them (illegals) as a demographic to exploit. We all know who illegals tend to vote (you don't think they vote?) for. There's plenty of asylum cities that are more than happy to take them, house them, and add them to the voting ranks. SF, Philly and Chicago come to mind. Exploiting 12-20m illegal aliens for their 90% Democrat vote is game changing. All they need is an address and utility bill and viola... Obama is re-elected after four years of failure and abuse.

We have Santa Claus for a President; except he takes from the haves and doles it out to the have nots (after skimming the juice and lining the pockets of his corporate backers.)
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:56 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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Exactly! Why not enforce our current laws? But, I think we both know the answer to that.
Because they work cheap and are easily exploited by American employers? Because using them as farm laborers keeps the price of food low since they work for peanuts? Since they work as nannies and yard men, etc... for the wealthy who can keep them virtual prisoners? Because they work in sweat shops making cheap clothes?

I hear stories all the time - farmers from Georgia to California who can't find enough cheap help to bring in the crops.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Because they work cheap and are easily exploited by American employers? Because using them as farm laborers keeps the price of food low since they work for peanuts? Since they work as nannies and yard men, etc... for the wealthy who can keep them virtual prisoners? Because they work in sweat shops making cheap clothes?

I hear stories all the time - farmers from Georgia to California who can't find enough cheap help to bring in the crops.
You couldn't be more wrong. These growers are only pocketing the profit from cheap, illegal immigrants. They aren't passing any savings on to us. Again, there are unlimited H-2A visas for foreign agricultural workers so there is no need to hire illegal immigrants for those jobs except to fatten the wallets of the growers while they pass on the social costs of this cheap labor to you and I the taxpayer and any other jobs that these illegal immigrants are holding. Not such a good deal aferall, is it?
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:26 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I hear stories all the time - farmers from Georgia to California who can't find enough cheap help to bring in the crops.
I used to work with folks whose spouses ran farms, and who used illegals for that reason. Despite very high unemployment, the locos wanted outragous amounts to do the work, and even than, they'd not show up quite often.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Because they work cheap and are easily exploited by American employers? Because using them as farm laborers keeps the price of food low since they work for peanuts? Since they work as nannies and yard men, etc... for the wealthy who can keep them virtual prisoners? Because they work in sweat shops making cheap clothes?

I hear stories all the time - farmers from Georgia to California who can't find enough cheap help to bring in the crops.
Increase wages. If you can't legally run a business it SHOULD go BK. The Govt would subsidize these fools if we needed it that badly and they couldn't get by otherwise. No "savings" gets passed on to the consumer EVER.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:14 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Increase wages. If you can't legally run a business it SHOULD go BK. The Govt would subsidize these fools if we needed it that badly and they couldn't get by otherwise. No "savings" gets passed on to the consumer EVER.
EXACTLY. It's not like we're getting cheaper produce because illegals pick it for pennies on the dollar...nope, it's all being gobbled up as pure profit. We get screwed, they get screwed, and the businesses make out like bandits.

We need to punish them.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:15 PM
 
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Shumer is pandering to conservatives. He thinks that if he uses the words "very tough on illegal immigration" that he's effectively greasing the skids for easier passage. The fact of the matter is that there's not a single Democrat heading into the 2014 election season that's willing to "get tough" on illegal immigrants. Democrats corrupted themselves by coddling illegal immigrants the past 4+ years and including that coddling in their party platform. And now they say they're going to "get tough?" LOL Right. They have themselves to blame for the coming failure of immigration reform. This is 100% pure unadulterated bullshiite coming from Shumer.
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