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Old 01-27-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Yeah, you aren't supposed to link to other forums here, even if they only have four active members, with a single member making 96% of the posts...

Total Hispanic births dropped to just below a million last year. Hispanics are estimated to be 50 million of the U.S. population. The last statistic I will quote is from the link you offered for "Capital Alert" at the Sacramento Bee:



So, in the state with the highest illegal immigrant population, legal immigrants outnumber them three-to-one. All of the statistics don't show a majority of Hispanic growth attributable to illegal immigration. The actual link to Pew is http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/125.pdf
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IBMMuseum, you disbelieve anything you don't agree with, regardless of the source. They key point is that, since the Reagan 1986 Amnesty, there have been 5 million anchor babies born to illegal immigrant parents, and whether you accept that fact, or not, it is a fact.

 
Old 01-27-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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UNITED STATES BORDER (Source DHS/CBP)
FY -- Apprehends - BP Agents - Ratio.....Apprehension Rate
1987--1,190,488-----3,181-----374.2.........1 out of 7
1988--1,008,145-----3,766-----267.7
1989----954,243-----3,783-----252.2
1990--1,169,939-----3,715-----314.9
1991--1,197,875-----3,635-----329.5
1992--1,258,482-----4,026-----312.6
1993--1,327,259-----3,965-----334.7
1994--1,094,717-----4,217-----259.6
1995--1,394,554-----4,786-----291.4
1996--1,649,986-----5,863-----281.4
1997--1,412,953-----6,817-----207.3
1998--1,555,776-----7,890-----197.2
1999--1,579,010-----8,259-----191.9
2000--1,676,438-----9,212---- 182.0.........1 out of 6
2001--1,266,213-----9,821---- 128.9
2002----955,310----10,045------95.1
2003----931,557----10,717------86.9
2004--1,160,395----10,819---- 107.2
2005--1,189,075----11,264---- 105.6
2006--1,089,902----12,349------88.3
2007----876,704----14,923------58.7.........1 out of 5
2008----723,825----17,499------41.4
2009----556,041----20,119------27.6
2010----463,382----20,558------22.6
2011----340,252 ---21,444------15.9.........1 out of 4
2012 ... WAY OVERDUE ...When is the DHS going to release the FY2012 Border Apprehension numbers?
Why is lower apprehension numbers with higher numbers of Border Patrol agents not understood?...
 
Old 01-27-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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Yeah, you aren't supposed to link to other forums here, even if they only have four active members, with a single member making 96% of the posts...

Total Hispanic births dropped to just below a million last year. Hispanics are estimated to be 50 million of the U.S. population. The last statistic I will quote is from the link you offered for "Capital Alert" at the Sacramento Bee:



So, in the state with the highest illegal immigrant population, legal immigrants outnumber them three-to-one. All of the statistics don't show a majority of Hispanic growth attributable to illegal immigration. The actual link to Pew is http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/125.pdf.

Any population growth from illegal immigrants and their offspring in our country is unacceptable.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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Any population growth from illegal immigrants and their offspring in our country is unacceptable.
Illegal immigrants, according to our existing federal law, have absolutely no right to be in our country ... we, the people, want our federal laws enforced ... nothing more, nothing less
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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IBMMuseum, you disbelieve anything you don't agree with, regardless of the source. They key point is that, since the Reagan 1986 Amnesty, there have been 5 million anchor babies born to illegal immigrant parents, and whether you accept that fact, or not, it is a fact.
Even Pew Hispanic counts the birth to illegal immigrants if only one parent is an illegal alien:



But they show that 55% of the time, the other parent is a U.S. citizen or legal immigrant:



So in that 25 years, chances are pretty high that many of those illegal alien parents have been able to legalize through their spouse, not that "Anchor Baby" child...
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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mateo45, you do realize that only 3% of illegal immigrants work in agriculture?
And you have a source for that, since a recent topic (actually two) was not able to resolve it?...
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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And you have a source for that, since a recent topic (actually two) was not able to resolve it?...
There are an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants (if you want to believe our government's stats) in this country. I think it is obvous that not even a fourth of them are picking crops or related agricultural jobs regardless of whose percentages you want to debunk.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Because that's all due to illegal immigrants...
No, not ALL, but they are definitely a major factor. Illegal immigration adds countless billions to those costs, and only exacerbates the problem. Unfortunately, we don't know the true extent, because the government refuses to collect data on illegal aliens to ascertain those costs.

Many hospitals have been forced to close, which they directly attribute to overwhelming numbers of nonpaying illegal aliens. Included among those closures is the dialysis clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital. Now, none of the indigent Atlanta residents receive "free" dialysis treatment. Why should citizens bear the burden for the failure of our government to enforce our laws? This is shameful, and certainly no laughing matter.

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For Grady, which has served Atlanta’s poor for 117 years, it was an excruciating choice, a stark reflection of what happens when the country’s inadequate health care system confronts its defective immigration policy.

Like other hospitals, particularly public hospitals, Grady has been left to provide costly treatments to nonpaying illegal residents who most likely could not have obtained such care in their home countries. American taxpayers and health care consumers have borne the expense.

That all changed on Oct. 4, when the strapped public hospital closed its outpatient dialysis clinic, leaving 51 patients almost all illegal immigrants — in a life-or-death limbo.

Over time, the mounting losses have compromised Grady’s charitable mission, forcing layoffs, increases in fees and the elimination of services.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/he...pagewanted=all

Sadly, there are many hospitals in the same predicament as Grady. Again, I find no humor in this.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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There are an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants (if you want to believe our government's stats) in this country. I think it is obvous that not even a fourth of them are picking crops or related agricultural jobs regardless of whose percentages you want to debunk.
Which is not a "source"...
 
Old 01-27-2013, 07:57 PM
 
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Which is not a "source"...
Obvious or "safe to say" shouldn't require a source. How about you give us your guesstimate of how many illegal immigrants are working in the agricultural industry than opposed to other types of jobs they are working based on the supposed 12 million that are here.

Anyway you want to slice it the majority of them are not working in the ag industry. Sources provided in here already have claimed that ony 3-4% of them are.

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