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Old 01-21-2013, 08:47 PM
 
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I think these Mexicans should be deported to Cuba --

3 sentenced in immigration scam for faking Cuban birth certificates | KTSM News Channel 9 | News, Weather and Sports | El Paso, Las Cruces, Juarez

The defendants, authorities say, made more than half a million dollars selling forged Cuban birth certificates to undocumented immigrants and helping them fill out fraudulent U.S. immigration forms.

Court documents provide details about a type of scam that's becoming increasingly common, immigration lawyers say.

In one conversation with a confidential informant recorded by investigators, Morejon demanded thousands of dollars in payment for Cuban birth certificates and provided advice about how to answer questions from immigration authorities who might ask why he has a Mexican accent.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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Como se dice "la bota" en cubano?

No it's "como se dithe...."
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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Como se dice "la bota" en cubano?

No it's "como se dithe...."
That's only in central and northern Spain. Nobody in Latin America pronounces the c and z with a th sound
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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Actually the Latin Americans who want to pretend they're more ''European'' and ''upper class'' speak with a Castilian accent... kinda like the folks here who affect a Brit accent!
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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I think these Mexicans should be deported to Cuba --

3 sentenced in immigration scam for faking Cuban birth certificates | KTSM News Channel 9 | News, Weather and Sports | El Paso, Las Cruces, Juarez

The defendants, authorities say, made more than half a million dollars selling forged Cuban birth certificates to undocumented immigrants and helping them fill out fraudulent U.S. immigration forms.

Court documents provide details about a type of scam that's becoming increasingly common, immigration lawyers say.

In one conversation with a confidential informant recorded by investigators, Morejon demanded thousands of dollars in payment for Cuban birth certificates and provided advice about how to answer questions from immigration authorities who might ask why he has a Mexican accent.
Even more disturbing are the terrorists who learn Spanish and assume Spanish aliases so they can pretend to be Mexicans coming here to seek a better life. But, why wouldn't they? The entire world knows illegal aliens receive the red carpet treatment from this government. They know all they have to do is enter this country as Hispanic, and they're home free. After all, DHS won't touch them unless they are convicted felons, and then, it must be for a "violent" crime.

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FBI Director Robert Mueller testified to Congress in March 2005, that “there are individuals from countries with known al-Qaida connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish and pretending to be Hispanic.”
Hezbollah terror threat on U.S.-Mexico border is real | Arizona Capitol Times


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Members of Hezbollah, the Lebanon-based terrorist organization, have already entered to the United States across our Southwest border. On March 1, 2005, Mahmoud Youssef Kourani pleaded guilty to providing material support to Hezbollah. Kourani is an illegal alien who had been smuggled across the U.S.-Mexico border after bribing a Mexican consular official in Beirut for a visa to travel to Mexico. Kourani and a Middle Eastern traveling partner then paid coyotes in Mexico to guide them into the United States. Kourani established residence among the Lebanese expatriate community in Dearborn, Michigan and began soliciting funds for Hezbollah terrorists back home in Lebanon. He is the brother of the Hezbollah chief of military operations in southern Lebanon.

Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Robert Mueller has confirmed in testimony “that there are individuals from countries with known al-Qa’ida connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish and pretending to be Hispanic immigrants.”

“I dare to say that at any given time, daytime or nighttime, one can get on a boat and traverse back and forth between Texas and Mexico and not get caught. If smugglers can bring in tons of marijuana and cocaine at one time and can smuggle 20 to 30 persons at one time, one can just imagine how easy it would be to bring in 2 to 3 terrorists or their weapons of mass destruction across the river and not be detected. Chances of apprehension are very slim.”
http://www.house.gov/sites/members/t...der-Report.pdf

Yet, only "racists" oppose this invasion.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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Even more disturbing are the terrorists who learn Spanish and assume Spanish aliases so they can pretend to be Mexicans coming here to seek a better life. But, why wouldn't they? The entire world knows illegal aliens receive the red carpet treatment from this government. They know all they have to do is enter this country as Hispanic, and they're home free. After all, DHS won't touch them unless they are convicted felons, and then, it must be for a "violent" crime.


Hezbollah terror threat on U.S.-Mexico border is real | Arizona Capitol Times


For those requiring a government source. . .


http://www.house.gov/sites/members/t...der-Report.pdf

Yet, only "racists" oppose this invasion.
True -- but until Obama gives the Mexicans amnesty and basically says they can bring over everyone they left behind in Mexico, it's a little smarter if the terrorists would pretend to be Cubans -- or even better yet, thePuerto Ricans.

It's so easy to get fraudulent documents, I'm not sure why the illegals don't all just go with Puerto Rican birth certificates and other documents and all they have to do is leave off the "s" when they talk -- it's easy enough to sound like a Puerto Rican -- "como eh' ta' ? "

Just like now, most Mexicans don't bother crossing through the desert, they can very easily buy fraudulent border crossing cards on the streets of any border town -- but it's only $149 if they simply buy their own border crossing card that lets them cross through the border crossing points legally and if they decide to just remain here, absolutely nothing is done about it. They then become the visa overstayers who are already being handed quick legalization and citizenship.

I suspect that those with serious criminal records are those who are going the fake document route. Fake and stolen documents actually cost more than the legal way which is only $149 and very easily obtained. They aren't supposed to just move themselves here -- but it's very commonly done now and the rewards for doing so are extremely high.
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:27 PM
 
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True -- but until Obama gives the Mexicans amnesty and basically says they can bring over everyone they left behind in Mexico, it's a little smarter if the terrorists would pretend to be Cubans -- or even better yet, thePuerto Ricans.

It's so easy to get fraudulent documents, I'm not sure why the illegals don't all just go with Puerto Rican birth certificates and other documents and all they have to do is leave off the "s" when they talk -- it's easy enough to sound like a Puerto Rican -- "como eh' ta' ? "

Just like now, most Mexicans don't bother crossing through the desert, they can very easily buy fraudulent border crossing cards on the streets of any border town -- but it's only $149 if they simply buy their own border crossing card that lets them cross through the border crossing points legally and if they decide to just remain here, absolutely nothing is done about it. They then become the visa overstayers who are already being handed quick legalization and citizenship.

I suspect that those with serious criminal records are those who are going the fake document route. Fake and stolen documents actually cost more than the legal way which is only $149 and very easily obtained. They aren't supposed to just move themselves here -- but it's very commonly done now and the rewards for doing so are extremely high.
Wait, wait, wait, we've heard this fictional story from you before. How does a "visa overstayer" get "quick legalization and citizenship"? You're making reference to a process already in place, how is that possible?
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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Wait, wait, wait, we've heard this fictional story from you before. How does a "visa overstayer" get "quick legalization and citizenship"? You're making reference to a process already in place, how is that possible?
Of course they are being legalized. Come here on the border crossing card, fail to return home and then adjust status -- U visa works, just tell the immigration official that someone either back home or here in the USA smacked you or planted drugs on you or in some way bullied you and you're in. Or have some relative here fill out some forms and claim they would face hardship of some kind if you're deported. What works really great is to find a green card marriage.

Obama is going to offer all these border crossing card overstayers legal status and the quick path to citizenship. That's why he's halted most deportations.

Most illegals from Mexico are not having to hike through the desert, the vast majority come through the official ports of entry. These visa overstayers are even being given preference over those who crossed through the desert without documents.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:49 PM
 
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Of course they are being legalized. Come here on the border crossing card, fail to return home and then adjust status -- U visa works, just tell the immigration official that someone either back home or here in the USA smacked you or planted drugs on you or in some way bullied you and you're in. Or have some relative here fill out some forms and claim they would face hardship of some kind if you're deported. What works really great is to find a green card marriage.

Obama is going to offer all these border crossing card overstayers legal status and the quick path to citizenship. That's why he's halted most deportations.

Most illegals from Mexico are not having to hike through the desert, the vast majority come through the official ports of entry. These visa overstayers are even being given preference over those who crossed through the desert without documents.
But you said they are "already being handed quick legalization and citizenship", which is it? Your story is inconsistent, you're claiming family (currently a U.S. citizen spouse) here could sponsor your example as an "Immediate Relative", but fail to explain why that couldn't be done with the person in Mexico. Why do you make up these stories?

The most humorous thing is that you think you can get people to believe them...
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