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Old 10-19-2007, 07:37 PM
 
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Here are the things that I WOULD NOT do:
1. Proudly display my Mexican flag (frequently above the American flag!!)
2. Steal a legal citizens identity and:
A. Register as a legal voter
B. Enroll for every social service available (i.e.- food stamps, ADC or Welfare, Social Security, Medicare / Medicaid, etc.)
C. Apply for credit cards
D. Apply for a high risk mortgage
3. Write graffitti everywhere
4. Demand that all documents be made available with the language from the country tham I am a legal citizen in.
5. March on Washington demanding the same rights as the millions of legal immigrants that came before me.
6. Rape, rob, murder, pillage and plunder.

 
Old 10-19-2007, 07:43 PM
 
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i would love to go live in scotland for a while. i don't know why; it's just a dream i have. i did some research and learned that i don't currently qualify for any visa that would allow me to work in the UK, and since i am not independently wealthy and have to earn a living wherever i live, i can't go and realize my dream of living in an idyllic highland village right now. end of story.

i hope that answers the question.
 
Old 10-19-2007, 10:52 PM
 
Location: California
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LOL! To the people saying "Oh I would fight for my rights in my other country and try to make it stable" I lul at you. The truth is, you would do the same thing as all the illegals are doing right now.
 
Old 10-19-2007, 11:21 PM
 
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LOL! To the people saying "Oh I would fight for my rights in my other country and try to make it stable" I lul at you. The truth is, you would do the same thing as all the illegals are doing right now.
As difficult as it may be for you to believe, there are people who simply would not illegally immigrate to the US. The vast majority of Mexicans are still in Mexico. Why are they all not doing the same thing the illegals are doing right now? Some of them apparently feel it is worth trying to improve conditions at home. Mexican citizens do stage protests and, contrary to the belief of some, they are not mowed down by gunfire from the police or military.
I've always figured the illegal invasion is like the Mariel Boat Lift without the boats. The ones who climb the fence, steal SS#'s, burn US flags, drive without a license, show up for school lunch because it's 'free' even though they are 26 years old and cross the border and dump anchor babies are probably not the ones we should want as citizens. Or even in the US.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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If I were living in a poor country, and had a chance to enter a rich one, I suppose I'd go for it and take a chance. If I knew it was illegal, I'd probably take the chance anyway, rationalizing that my needs were more important than some theoretical immigration law that I could SEE wasn't being taken seriously by anyone.
I'd probably stay as long as I could, KEEPING MY MOUTH SHUT and TRYING TO KEEP A LOW PROFILE and to NOT DRAW ATTENTION TO MYSELF and to NOT ANNOY THE LOCALS, as I continued to work, save my money, and hope things got better for me in the future, while remembering that, despite my hardships, things here were a HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN THEY WERE BACK HOME.
If I were the minor child of an illegal, I'd have to accompany them if they got deported.
I hate to admit to this; but, as macmeal stated line for line.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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LOL! To the people saying "Oh I would fight for my rights in my other country and try to make it stable" I lul at you. The truth is, you would do the same thing as all the illegals are doing right now.
Correct: and get the 'hell' out once the host country started enforcing its laws rigorously-------the payoff for staying would likely be less than to leave.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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i would love to go live in scotland for a while. i don't know why; it's just a dream i have. i did some research and learned that i don't currently qualify for any visa that would allow me to work in the UK, and since i am not independently wealthy and have to earn a living wherever i live, i can't go and realize my dream of living in an idyllic highland village right now. end of story.

i hope that answers the question.
I catch your drift: if I really wished to do so; I could probably visit Hungary and stay (I am first generation US born American of the above heritage) but; I see no reason to do so------between not speaking the language, etc. I feel no sense of 'connection' to Hungarians because of their ethnicity.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 10:00 AM
 
Location: new mexico
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LOL! To the people saying "Oh I would fight for my rights in my other country and try to make it stable" I lul at you. The truth is, you would do the same thing as all the illegals are doing right now.


how many of us do you think have not picked up a pen and written our concerns to our government? how many of us do you think have not made phone calls? how many of us do you think have not stood up to our government for what we think is right? demanding they honor their oathe of office to the american people? i have done all these things...and have letters from some of these government officials in response to my concerns to prove it....so i would do the same thing if i lived in any other country.
and i for one would never go to a country outside of the u.s.illegally...because i think illegal immigration in any form is wrong.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 10:01 AM
 
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. The vast majority of Mexicans are still in Mexico. Why are they all not doing the same thing the illegals are doing right now? . .
This once again speaks to the very unique relationhip between Mexico and the US, far diifferent from any theoretical concept of outright dollars-and-cents poverty.

Mexico once "owned" a part of what's now the US. This is historical fact (though it's been horribly mangled by being mixed in with all sort of "ethnic rights", etc etc. No, ALL Mexicans do not have a PERSONAL claim to the Southwest--but it's encouraged to SEEM that way)

Also, you can quite literally WALK here from Mexico--or ride a bike, or hide in a car trunk for 30 minutes. This is not possible with any other 3rd-world country. It's simply geography.

Thirdly, there's the temendous difference of living standards found here, separated only by an imaginary line, much of it through uninhabited desert, and largely unguarded. This huge economic gulf virtually GUARANTEES huge pressure to cross it from a "bad" situation to a "better" one. This would NOT occur if Mexico bordered on Pakistan, nor DOES it occur where the US borders on Canada--

Mexico is by no means a particularly destitute country--its living standards are far above much of the world's. It simply finds itself in the unique position of being right next door to an extremely wealthy, liberal, benign, "caring" society, which bears a healthy dose of "guilt", and is willing to tolerate a certain amount of "bending the rules" for reasons both humantarian and economic.
 
Old 10-20-2007, 11:18 AM
 
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This once again speaks to the very unique relationhip between Mexico and the US, far diifferent from any theoretical concept of outright dollars-and-cents poverty.

Mexico once "owned" a part of what's now the US. This is historical fact (though it's been horribly mangled by being mixed in with all sort of "ethnic rights", etc etc. No, ALL Mexicans do not have a PERSONAL claim to the Southwest--but it's encouraged to SEEM that way)

Also, you can quite literally WALK here from Mexico--or ride a bike, or hide in a car trunk for 30 minutes. This is not possible with any other 3rd-world country. It's simply geography.

Thirdly, there's the temendous difference of living standards found here, separated only by an imaginary line, much of it through uninhabited desert, and largely unguarded. This huge economic gulf virtually GUARANTEES huge pressure to cross it from a "bad" situation to a "better" one. This would NOT occur if Mexico bordered on Pakistan, nor DOES it occur where the US borders on Canada--

Mexico is by no means a particularly destitute country--its living standards are far above much of the world's. It simply finds itself in the unique position of being right next door to an extremely wealthy, liberal, benign, "caring" society, which bears a healthy dose of "guilt", and is willing to tolerate a certain amount of "bending the rules" for reasons both humantarian and economic.
A successful parasite does not kill it's host. People are tired of being taken advantage of.

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