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Old 10-21-2007, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Counting the other way:

People who benefit under 'Affirmative Action'

Women of any race/ethnicity

Hispanics of any race/ethnicity (although the darker skinned the better)

Asians-------including Bobby Jindal.

Blacks (although the 'One Drop Rule' may sway things there)

That leaves non Hispanic White men as a small minority.

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Old 10-21-2007, 11:51 AM
 
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How is it, as a White, I should be supportive of this? How is this sort of hate and discrimination fair to me? What and why do I owe the entire planet the nation my ancestors built?
I've been waiting, but I don't think this particular question is going to get answered. I would imagine that you, as a white, should be supportive of this simply because you "should".....or to "be a good sport".....or because "we know you're a good guy, and you won't mind".

As far as why you "owe the entire planet" your country, you'll get no really solid answers here, either, I'm afraid. Some have suggested it's because "we've ALWAYS taken in the world's poor and unwanted"...meaning, I would imagine, that by so doing, we've thus "inherited" the job, and it's now our duty, regardless of whether it's "good for us" or not. Other nations aren't expected to accomodate immigrants because their cultures are more set-in-stone and the wouldn't "tolerate" multiculturalism....or perhaps because your country has Christian roots, it's your "duty" to pitch in and help (even help those who hate you)....or something like that (?)

Other than that, I'm afraid I can't offer any more solid answers. I doubt that anyone else can, either. Sorry that the above answers don't really address your concerns, but I'm afraid that's about the best I can do. Maybe some more "enlightened" reader can clear this up for you....
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Pa
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All other ethnic groups, as well as women, are subject to preferential hiring practices by most large companies, all public utility jobs as well as federal jobs. The same is true for college grants, educational assistance and federally backed small business loans. If this isn't dicrimination against white males, I don't know what is!
It also discriminates against asian males.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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It also discriminates against asian males.
Are you sure about that?

East Indian men do (or did) receive a 'leg up' due to being 'Asian'.

Yet: in the old Jim Crow South; the few ethnic Chinese/Japanese tended to be counted as 'White'.

The original Siamese twins; Cheng and Eng Bunker, who immigrated from Siam (what is now known as Thailand) were ethnic Chinese------yet, according to the US Census in the 19th Century, their children were listed as White. The mothers of Cheng and Eng's kids were generic Anglo-Irish White women.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:35 PM
 
Location: California
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Even children of Hispanic immigrants back then were listed under White under the Census.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Even children of Hispanic immigrants back then were listed under White under the Census.
Very true-------in fact: certain states did not allow 'Hispanics' to marry Filipinos (Asians) because the former were legally 'White' despite being sometimes full Aztec, etc. heritage.
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So, I guess there's no reason to support our current immigration and affirmative action policies, unless I'm trying to undermine my own existence.
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:33 PM
 
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So, I guess there's no reason to support our current immigration and affirmative action policies, unless I'm trying to undermine my own existence.
Well, that's a very grumpy way to describe it. You're doing it for the greater good, not your own benefit......at least that's the theory.
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Well, that's a very grumpy way to describe it. You're doing it for the greater good, not your own benefit......at least that's the theory.
Yes, you've mentioned that before. What is the greater "good" exactly, and what if I'm not interested in sacrificing myself for what's subjectively considered "good" by somebody, which may not be particularly "good" in my opinion?
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Already done:

Hispanics of all races have already surpassed non Hispanic Blacks.
Only in number. Not necessarily political power.
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